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Dale Holan
TryHard
Alberta
2.5 GTT L

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Tuesday, September 23, 2008 - 11:38 am, by:  Dale Holan (Xtrax) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

So I've been running my mouth a little and know I could probably use a little help. I've been challenging a fairly stock 07 Trailblazer SS. It should run mid 14's in stock form. My Personal Best is a 14.48. I know if we hit the track like this it will be a drivers race, but I'm looking to get every edge I can in the next few days.

Here's what I've got so far.
HKS intake
MkIV supra SMIC
Aftermarket cat back exhaust.

So I'm here what I'm thinking. I have a boost Tee I've never installed and I might do it. I was planning to replace it with a proper boost controller in the winter. So if I install this properly I may get boost spikes as I've read. So if I'm not running a fuel/boost cut defender and I hit the cut are there any negative permanent effects?

The other thing I was thinking is gutting the cat. I'm going to replace the whole mid pipe eventually, will gutting the cat add any power or create negative effects?

Any other ideas? Has to be cheap or free, and preferably low risk.
Gary Poloskei
TryHard
A.C.T
Soarer TT

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Tuesday, September 23, 2008 - 12:56 pm, by:  Gary Poloskei (Mikrucio) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

gutting the CAT is not a good idea. if you get pulled over and inspected. you will get a BAD defect. yes it will give you more power. but it's not worth the trouble.

If you want to do it properly get a HI-FLOW cat from a good exhaust shop.

With the boost tee. you will need a fuel cut defender because it WILL spike above 14 psi. even if you trim it to say 13psi.

I hit 14 psi sometimes at night without a boost tee. not good.
Dale Holan
TryHard
Alberta
2.5 GTT L

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Tuesday, September 23, 2008 - 01:38 pm, by:  Dale Holan (Xtrax) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm in Alberta so gutting the cat is legal, if I'll get some kind of gain I'll probably do it.

So if I hit boost cut does it hurt the car?
Maurice Diggler
Goo Roo
Victoria
TR44i

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Tuesday, September 23, 2008 - 01:40 pm, by:  Maurice Diggler (Mau_rice) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Dale Holan wrote on Tuesday, September 23, 2008 - 11:38 am:

So if I'm not running a fuel/boost cut defender and I hit the cut are there any negative permanent effects?


Last thing you want to do is be a nose in front, have it spike and hit boost cut, then lose lol... My guess is your car is running about 12psi as is, I'd leave the boost tee for now.

Dale Holan wrote on Tuesday, September 23, 2008 - 11:38 am:

will gutting the cat add any power or create negative effects?


Great idea, you don't legally need one in Canada anyways so no point, rip it out, dont' gut it, go to an exhaust shop and pay the $50 (Maximum) to replace it with a piece of straight pipe and your boost might jump up to a pound or so, 13psi would be good.

Dale Holan wrote on Tuesday, September 23, 2008 - 11:38 am:

Any other ideas? Has to be cheap or free, and preferably low risk.


How about removing all your heavy subs (if you got them) remove the spare wheel out of the boot, and if you can get away with it, remove passenger seat/rear seat (An electric Passenger seat alone is near on 30kg's.

With weight reductions, apparently every 100lbs you remove you shed .1 off your ET.


Dale Holan wrote on Tuesday, September 23, 2008 - 01:38 pm:

So if I hit boost cut does it hurt the car?


No, it's a safety feature, it doesn't hurt the car.

Good luck mate. :-)
Matthew Standage
Tinkerer
w.a.
jzz30 tt

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Tuesday, September 23, 2008 - 03:03 pm, by:  Matthew Standage (Matstandage) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

do you have a boost gauge? If so what boost are getting at the moment?If not install one and see how close you can get to the boost cut which is 14.5 psi from memory without hitting the cut that way you can max your engine power it might not spike too badly mine didn't spike heaps with my boost t until i got custom dumps and a front pipe so you should be able to get pretty close to 13.5 psi or so good luck and kick his ass
Daniel Clarke
Goo Roo
NSW
TT 2.5L 6 cylinder

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Tuesday, September 23, 2008 - 07:55 pm, by:  Daniel Clarke (Dieseltrain) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Remove your drivers side headlight, for nice Air Feed also... And yeah, remove your passenger seat and rear seats, empty your boot, ie no spare or tools... Run some octane booster, Install a Brand new set of Spark plugs gapped @ 0.8mm and some fresh oil....
Maurice Diggler
Goo Roo
Victoria
TR44i

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Tuesday, September 23, 2008 - 10:43 pm, by:  Maurice Diggler (Mau_rice) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Alternatively, buy a plane ticket for Daniel Clarke to come to Canada and drive your car, you'll get the times outta it then :-)
Dale Holan
TryHard
Alberta
2.5 GTT L

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Tuesday, September 23, 2008 - 11:57 pm, by:  Dale Holan (Xtrax) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks for the input guys.
I'm currently running a steady 11 lbs of boost.

I'll ditch every pound I can, and I'll try an exhaust shop for the decat.
Dale Holan
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Alberta
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Wednesday, September 24, 2008 - 01:06 am, by:  Dale Holan (Xtrax) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

ok I'm in trouble. He just put headers and a tune on. real estate agents and thier money.

Can I safely run a 100 shot of nitrous?
Peter Nitschke
Junk Filterer
South Australia
UZZ30 UZZ31

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Wednesday, September 24, 2008 - 01:36 am, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

This could get interesting! :-)
Dale Holan
TryHard
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Wednesday, September 24, 2008 - 02:25 am, by:  Dale Holan (Xtrax) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FZFaEnqfTg
Patrick Robinson
TryHard
New Providence
Soarer TT

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Wednesday, September 24, 2008 - 06:02 am, by:  Patrick Robinson (Islandsoarer) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

OH WOOOOWOOOOOWOOWOW,
You hafta hafta hafta YOUTUBE this one.
You might have bitten off more than you could chew, but then again, SOARERS RULE !!!!!!


MOVE OVA' MUSCLE FACKERS
Matthew Sharpe
Goo Roo
North Island
JZZ31

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Wednesday, September 24, 2008 - 06:24 am, by:  Matthew Sharpe (Madmatt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Dale Holan wrote on Wednesday, September 24, 2008 - 01:06 am:

ok I'm in trouble. He just put headers and a tune on. ••••••• real estate agents and thier money.

Can I safely run a 100 shot of nitrous?




Isn't he just cheating now?
Chris Lock
TryHard
sa
V8 Limited

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Wednesday, September 24, 2008 - 08:52 am, by:  Chris Lock (Sledge) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeah, tell him now that he's started modifying his car it's all changed..
Dale Holan
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Alberta
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Wednesday, September 24, 2008 - 10:00 am, by:  Dale Holan (Xtrax) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

yeah what can I do. If you can't beat em. cheat?
Peter Nitschke
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Wednesday, September 24, 2008 - 02:30 pm, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Pump his tyres up to 50psi when he isn't looking.
Jeff Bedsor
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TT

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Wednesday, September 24, 2008 - 02:59 pm, by:  Jeff Bedsor (Jeff_bedsor) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Drop yours to about 20psi if on the drag strip.
Daniel Clarke
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Wednesday, September 24, 2008 - 04:31 pm, by:  Daniel Clarke (Dieseltrain) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Get a Fuel Cut Defender, drop 16psi of boost into it, run your tyres @ 20-22psi like Jeff mentioned... With a Decat, if you dont run 13.3-13.5's, theres something wrong :-)
Luke Nieuwhof
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WA
Soarer TT

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Thursday, October 02, 2008 - 02:47 pm, by:  Luke Nieuwhof (Luke_nieuwhof) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Strip the mother out of it. Seats, carpet, trims, dash if you're keen haha.
It's all free, it's just putting it all back in that's the part.
Luke Streat
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WA
Soarer TT

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Friday, October 03, 2008 - 09:34 pm, by:  Luke Streat (Streatracer) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Can you run leaded fuel in canada? Get avgas (or lotsa octane booster) then reset ecu. It should remap for higher octane and give you a few more horses. Leaded fuel is pretty bad for oxy sensors but as long as its only occasionally should be sweet (my MR2 loved it)
Daniel Clarke
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Friday, October 03, 2008 - 09:54 pm, by:  Daniel Clarke (Dieseltrain) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

they have higher octane pump gas than us, even unleaded...
Dale Holan
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Tuesday, October 07, 2008 - 11:20 am, by:  Dale Holan (Xtrax) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

UPDATE.

I lost. 14.33 to 14.29. Closer than I thought.

I did beat an SRT8 though.

http://s167.photobucket.com/albums/u137/XtraXZX2/soarer/?action=view&current=SoarerVsSRT8Charger.flv
Chris Lock
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sa
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Tuesday, October 07, 2008 - 01:33 pm, by:  Chris Lock (Sledge) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You lost... after he cheated and modified his car.. ?
Jeff Smith
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Tuesday, October 07, 2008 - 05:05 pm, by:  Jeff Smith (Mozzie) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have to agree with Chris..... You won mate as you didn't do the same mods as him.... If you did you would have been in the 13's giving him the bone ...Hahahahahaha

But he did have to mod in order to beat you.
Matthew Sharpe
Goo Roo
North Island
JZZ31

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Wednesday, October 08, 2008 - 04:59 am, by:  Matthew Sharpe (Madmatt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Indeed - how much did he spend on his headers and tune?

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