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Nathan Hlad
Tinkerer
NT
soarer jzz30 tt

Posts: 88
Reg: 09-2008

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Wednesday, February 04, 2009 - 06:10 am, by:  Nathan Hlad (Jackpot) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

how much power can the standard 1jz-gte auto gearbox withstand ??
what can i do to strengthen my gearbox ?
Grant Rowan
TryHard
QLD
jzz30 TR44HF

Posts: 302
Reg: 02-2006

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Wednesday, February 04, 2009 - 07:35 am, by:  Grant Rowan (Booster13psi) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The standard auto can take about 230rwkw.

If you put a shift kit in you can take it to about 280rwkw.
Nathan Hlad
Tinkerer
NT
soarer jzz30 tt

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Wednesday, February 04, 2009 - 07:48 am, by:  Nathan Hlad (Jackpot) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

anyone suggest a good shift kit for the soarer ??
so if i want more than 280kw i have to get a manual ?
Jeff Smith
Goo Roo
NSW
GT30/37r Single T Manual

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Wednesday, February 04, 2009 - 08:05 am, by:  Jeff Smith (Mozzie) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I got to 267kw's and killed it with a shift kit....
Benjamin Burgess
Goo Roo
NSW
Toyota Corolla Conquest

Posts: 1952
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Wednesday, February 04, 2009 - 10:08 am, by:  Benjamin Burgess (Jampac) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It's not really how much power they'll take it's more how long it'll last ie MTBF. At 270rwkw level it'll not last long even if it's shift kitted.

Even at stock power level they break, just takes a long time, increasing the power just decreases the MTBF time.
Blake Gloyn
TryHard
manawatu
soarer JZZ30 TT

Posts: 390
Reg: 02-2006

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Wednesday, February 04, 2009 - 10:41 am, by:  Blake Gloyn (Blakenz) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

MV automatics suggest that above 260rwkw you should start looking to rebuild it with extra clutches(uprated frictions) and kevlar band etc.then he rates them to 350rwkw, but some have run over 400rwkw. As Ben says, its all a factor of power and time.
Daniel Clarke
Goo Roo
NSW
TT 2.5L 6 cylinder

Posts: 4563
Reg: 03-2006

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Wednesday, February 04, 2009 - 05:14 pm, by:  Daniel Clarke (Dieseltrain) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I try not to do full throttle shifts on the street. The only time my car keeps full throttle on shifts is at the track.

Ive had a shift kit for 2 years and the box is still running sweetly. The cars been making 260rwkw for almost 2 years, i have an uprated trans cooler with thermo fan mounted int he SMIC spot, and flush the fluid every 12 mths.
Mark Tierney
TryHard
NSW
Soarer GTT & Celsior

Posts: 182
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Wednesday, February 04, 2009 - 05:32 pm, by:  Mark Tierney (Mark_t) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I try not to do full throttle shifts on the street too, but sometimes you just cant help yourself.
I'm running about the same rwkw as Daniel, MV autos 1.5 shift kit, trans cooler & cams shift box. Minus the shift box that is a recent (brilliant) addition, I've had this configuration for 2 years now too. All seems ok still & I also recommend the fluid change every 12 months.
I have just spoken to Mike at MV autos & can get a 500rwkw box & 2800/3000 stally for under 3k. That's one of my next little projects.
I do still miss the clutch sometimes, however this setup, run in manual mode is awesome.
Still no sign of the current box dying tho. I'm pretty happy about that.
James Harris
Goo Roo
QLD
XTR T-66 Turbo

Posts: 2453
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Wednesday, February 04, 2009 - 05:50 pm, by:  James Harris (Haro) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

nathan you really need to start using the search feature buddy and actually reading a fair bit of the info on this site.

You have posted SOOOO many new topics most of which could be answered if you had a decent look around.


naughty.....
Daniel Clarke
Goo Roo
NSW
TT 2.5L 6 cylinder

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Wednesday, February 04, 2009 - 06:08 pm, by:  Daniel Clarke (Dieseltrain) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I reckon those manual switch boxes are an awsome idea.
Michael Keen
Goo Roo
nsw
Soarer TT

Posts: 1418
Reg: 10-2007

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Wednesday, February 04, 2009 - 06:50 pm, by:  Michael Keen (Spoilt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

so is a manual box. hehehe
Jeff Smith
Goo Roo
NSW
GT30/37r Single T Manual

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Wednesday, February 04, 2009 - 07:34 pm, by:  Jeff Smith (Mozzie) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Second that! ..... hahaha
Daniel Clarke
Goo Roo
NSW
TT 2.5L 6 cylinder

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Wednesday, February 04, 2009 - 09:09 pm, by:  Daniel Clarke (Dieseltrain) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Doubt it, welcome to the "gettin owned with alot more money under the hood " club for you 2 fella's :-)
James Harris
Goo Roo
QLD
XTR T-66 Turbo

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Wednesday, February 04, 2009 - 09:32 pm, by:  James Harris (Haro) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Daniel, you my friend are a blatant self promoter !
You do realise these cars can do more than just 400ms ?

The real fun begins at 200M and continues well into the thousands that follow long after the twins and auto have run outta puff haha
David Tra
DieHard
qld
TT

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Reg: 11-2007

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Wednesday, February 04, 2009 - 09:34 pm, by:  David Tra (Bookie) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Daniel Clarke wrote on Wednesday, February 04, 2009 - 05:14 pm:

i have an uprated trans cooler with thermo fan




I like the idea of a thermo fan! Thanks Daniel

What does MTBF mean?

James Harris
Goo Roo
QLD
XTR T-66 Turbo

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Wednesday, February 04, 2009 - 09:56 pm, by:  James Harris (Haro) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Mean Time Between Failures
Mark Tierney
TryHard
NSW
Soarer GTT & Celsior

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Thursday, February 05, 2009 - 07:11 am, by:  Mark Tierney (Mark_t) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I suppose it depends on the kind of driving you are doing and the bang for buck you are seeking. I'm often in the city, and as much as i like to drive a manual I'm not up for the work of a manual. Sh#tty stop/start traffic is just too much work, let a lone the wear & tear it would put on a 5/6 speed manual setup.
IMO, for high power engines, off the lights, drag strip & especially city type traffic, I personally believe you cant go past the tricked auto/manualised auto setup.
With the shift box, I can just flick it back to auto mode & its in drive as normal. In manual mode, it shifts so so so fast, and from 2nd to 3rd it's like lightening.
Total setup costs for this....Throttle body, Trans cooler, Cams shift box & fitting was about $900 (maybe a $100 more expensive now). For under a grand & minimum hassle, I'm surprised more people haven't gone this option? Remember that I'm still on the standard box. When I do upgrade to the MV autos souped up box, it's going to be total Christmas cake!
I'm also more surprised that Cam hasn't been run off his feet manufacturing these little babies?
I'll keep the 5/6 speed manual trans idea for a future track car (shhhh, did my financial controller hear that?)
Daniel Clarke
Goo Roo
NSW
TT 2.5L 6 cylinder

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Thursday, February 05, 2009 - 02:44 pm, by:  Daniel Clarke (Dieseltrain) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

James, Yeah it does, and my baby has trapped higher mph than Jeffs :-)

Mark is on the money, For a daily driver in peak traffic, everyday driving, Drag duties , you cant go bast a tricked auto!

But for circuit, you cant go past a manual. I just couldnt justify spending almost half of what a car is worth just to make it a manual . But thats cause im happy with what i got :-)
Vardis Delithodoris
TryHard
Victoria
GTTL T

Posts: 208
Reg: 07-2005

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Friday, February 06, 2009 - 01:46 pm, by:  Vardis Delithodoris (Ttpower) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My most recently broken auto lasted approx 5hrs before is snapped the input shaft clean cut...300 rwkw tho :-)
Benjamin Burgess
Goo Roo
NSW
Toyota Corolla Conquest

Posts: 1962
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Friday, February 06, 2009 - 02:27 pm, by:  Benjamin Burgess (Jampac) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sounds like a faulty shaft, or maybe a bad install. I was putting over 300rwkw and low 60ft times at the drags which is hugely stressful on the drivetrain.

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