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Nathan Hlad
TryHard NT soarer jzz30 tt
Posts: 314 Reg: 09-2008
| will 2j cam gears and timing belt go on my 1j ?? they are both hks, nengun said they only have the cam gears for a 2j but they are the same thing.... is this true ? |
Scott Wilkes
DieHard Tasmania 92 TT Factory Manual
Posts: 684 Reg: 10-2008
| same cam gears, but timing belt is different im pretty sure. Use the search feature mate, theres hundreds of threads that will answer your question immediantly |
Ben Socratous
Goo Roo SA as i drive though the valley of the 1/4 mile, i shall fear no falcodore, for the angel of boost is with me
Posts: 2200 Reg: 07-2005
| Gears are definately the same, belts are definately different |
Scott Wilkes
DieHard Tasmania 92 TT Factory Manual
Posts: 692 Reg: 10-2008
| sounds pretty definative |
Nathan Hlad
TryHard NT soarer jzz30 tt
Posts: 318 Reg: 09-2008
| nengun sell gears that fit a 1jz and a 2jz. (same product) but only sell the timing belt for the 2jz. anyone know if the 2jz timing belt will fit on my 1jz ?? all items are hks by the way.... |
Scott Wilkes
DieHard Tasmania 92 TT Factory Manual
Posts: 694 Reg: 10-2008
| mate me and ben just answered your question. Your 1JZ isnt special to everyone elses LOL 2JZ has a higher deck height due to larger stroke, hence 3 litre, so the belt will have extra ribs which will be to long for the 1J which has a shorter deck height |
Ben Socratous
Goo Roo SA as i drive though the valley of the 1/4 mile, i shall fear no falcodore, for the angel of boost is with me
Posts: 2201 Reg: 07-2005
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Ben Socratous wrote on Saturday, June 20, 2009 - 09:09 pm:belts are definately different
Nathan Hlad wrote on Sunday, June 21, 2009 - 12:48 am:anyone know if the 2jz timing belt will fit on my 1jz ??
No, the 2J belt will NOT fit the 1J, it is longer to counter the taller block dimensions. Gates make a performance 1J belt, Dayco make 1J belts as well. Dayco make the OEM belts for toyota also, so aftermarket Dayco would be a cheaper and just as reliable option as an OEM part. |
Aaron Casey
Goo Roo nsw '94 jzz30 gttl, 2 mini's one supercharged
Posts: 1160 Reg: 08-2005
| the gates one is around the 100 dollar mark for the upgraded one and its even blue |
Costa Tsimiklis
TryHard Victoria TT 300rwkw
Posts: 163 Reg: 07-2008
| Unless you are running aftermarket cams greater than 264 the 1JZ is still not an interference engine (no valves hitting the pistons). If the belt breaks - turn the engine over to its correct settings and then re-install a new belt. Thus an OEM belt would be just as good as a 'performance' belt and cheaper. |
Daniel Clarke
Goo Roo NSW TT 2.5L 6 cylinder
Posts: 5172 Reg: 03-2006
| Jun actually make 264 cams that ARE interference ... As long as you run Less Lift than 9.1mm it is fine . ONce you run 9.3mm lift or over , thats when you run into trouble. Its not the Duration, its the lift that causes the interference. |
Nathan Hlad
TryHard NT soarer jzz30 tt
Posts: 319 Reg: 09-2008
| so nengun sell 1jz and 2jz universal cam gears, but only the belt to fit the distance of a 2jz ? also i have found a site that sells the belt for a 1jzgte but the car names ar only - chaser, mark II and cresta. nengun also sells the belt for these cars so i guess they are the same thing. do the jzx cars and the vvt-i 1jz have the same distance for the timing belt ?? thanks for any help and im sorry if i repeated my question i thought since the cam gears were universal then maybe the belt would be. maybe nengun had made a mistake.... |
Daniel Clarke
Goo Roo NSW TT 2.5L 6 cylinder
Posts: 5175 Reg: 03-2006
| Just get a Genuine Toyota 1JZ timing belt champ |
Robert Day
TryHard victoria v8 & TT
Posts: 196 Reg: 01-2007
| I agree with Daniel just get a stock belt .. I have never seen or heard of a Toyota Cam belt breaking, ( within its service life ) ... I would not waste my time or money on anything else, especially if they were dearer too .. Just Wank factor ... Different story for Mitsubishi though ... |
Nathan Hlad
TryHard NT soarer jzz30 tt
Posts: 323 Reg: 09-2008
| im getting a toyota belt as a spare and have my heart set on the hks one price doesnt bother me, just need to know if the chaser, mark II and the cresta have the same distance timing belt as the soarer ?? they should since they have the same exact engine, shouldn't they ? what about the vvt-i 1jz ?? |
Daniel Clarke
Goo Roo NSW TT 2.5L 6 cylinder
Posts: 5179 Reg: 03-2006
| Mate the HKS belt is complete Wank factor . |
James Harris
Goo Roo QLD GT Starlet
Posts: 2852 Reg: 07-2005
| ^^^ agreed... |
Robert Day
TryHard victoria v8 & TT
Posts: 199 Reg: 01-2007
| I'm curious how much extra one has to pay for the HKS Wank Factor .... Nathan you do realise that it will not Last Longer or Perform Better, etc, etc, than a standard Toyota Belt ....... |
Christian Molenda
Goo Roo QLD T
Posts: 1104 Reg: 07-2005
| Mate, get a Gates 1jz belt. Probably just as cheap or cheaper than the toyota one.. (Although i went a genuine toyota one) They come in blue so they have that wank factor you are after! |
Bobby Green
TryHard QLD TT
Posts: 308 Reg: 09-2005
| I had a Gates 1j belt go soft and sloppy after just a few weeks of it being on. Swapped to a genuine belt and it was perfect. This is with hks 264 cam shafts. Go genuine. |
Nathan Hlad
TryHard NT soarer jzz30 tt
Posts: 326 Reg: 09-2008
| so anyway.... do the jzx cars and the vvt-i 1jz have the same length timing belt as a non vvt-i 1jz ?? i know hks timing belt is wank factor thats why im getting it, got nothing else to spend my money on lol. i understand it wont be as good as a genuine toyota belt maybe it will be worse but i am going to buy one either way. and robert one has to pay almost $200 for the hks wank factor. |
Peter Nitschke
Junk Filterer South Australia UZZ30 UZZ31
Posts: 10645 Reg: 11-2004
| So just buy one and hang it in the pool room as a trophy if it doesn't fit. |
Nathan Hlad
TryHard NT soarer jzz30 tt
Posts: 327 Reg: 09-2008
| so anyway.... do the jzx cars and the vvt-i 1jz have the same length timing belt as a non vvt-i 1jz ?? it should since they are the same engine and there are no alternate lengths for them.... |
Daniel Clarke
Goo Roo NSW TT 2.5L 6 cylinder
Posts: 5181 Reg: 03-2006
| Try asking someone that Sells HKS Timing Belts mate . SO far you have had everyone advise against, including someone who had issues within weeks . And it aint a job you want to do twice , thats for sure ! |
Robert Day
TryHard victoria v8 & TT
Posts: 202 Reg: 01-2007
| I think its referred to as " bitting the hand that feeds you " ... |
Cameron Laufer
DieHard Queensland Built 1.5j T04z
Posts: 764 Reg: 12-2007
| Nathan, the Toyota 1jz-gte vvti timing belt Part no.13568-49065 and for future reference 1jzgte have 3 different timing belts depending on age and model |