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Milan Dujic
Tinkerer
WA
TT soarer

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Reg: 02-2009

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Tuesday, July 28, 2009 - 08:46 pm, by:  Milan Dujic (Milan_dujic) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

hey guys im intrested in boing a rebuild on my car now that i have no licence.the question i have is what would i need to do a ground up rebuild?the car has done 208xxx kms,im not after any serious power just stock turbos re-built and boosted not too high. any help would be appriciated.
David Barnes
TryHard
Qld
Celsior V8

Posts: 284
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Tuesday, August 25, 2009 - 07:01 am, by:  David Barnes (Toyota_celsior) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If the engine has been cared for, I would be confident to say it wouldn't have issues running a bit more boost in its current state. 200,000 really isnt that much for a quality engine like a 1jz if it has been maintained.
Cihan Aday
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JZZ30

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Tuesday, August 25, 2009 - 10:15 am, by:  Cihan Aday (Cihan) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Engine block
- bearings (Main)
- bearings (Rods)
- ARP connecting rod bolts
- ARP main stud kit
- ARP head stud kit
- Front oil seal
- Rear main seal
- OEM Toyota oil pump
- OEM Toyota water pump
- OEM timing belt
- OEM drive/acc belt
- Timing belt idler pulley
- Timing belt tensioner
- Drive belt tensioner

Head;
- Toyota VRS kit (valve stem seals, guides, intake manifold gasket, MLS head gasket etc)

Machine shop;
- Block prep. machine and hone
- Crank prep. machining
- Rotating assembly balance
- Head rebuild

Other parts;
- 12 exhaust studs
- 12 exhaust bolts
- PCV valve
- PCV valve rubber (intake to camcover)
- Toyota packing sealant x 2
- 8m silicon tubing in 6mm
- 2m silicon tubing in 4mm
- Tensioner/Idler pulley/crank plastic cover
- Viscous fan coupling

There are a few things missing, but its agood idea of what a ground up bottom end + head build requires. There will also be various bits relating to the standard turbo's you may need to consider.
Matthew Werner
TryHard
Qld
jzz30 TT

Posts: 256
Reg: 12-2006

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Tuesday, August 25, 2009 - 08:44 pm, by:  Matthew Werner (Matto_888) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

yea.. got that stuff in ma shed bro.......
Michael Keen
Goo Roo
nsw
Soarer TT

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Wednesday, August 26, 2009 - 09:27 pm, by:  Michael Keen (Spoilt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i have a genuine vrs kit for sale 200
Cihan Aday
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JZZ30

Posts: 3015
Reg: 07-2005

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Thursday, August 27, 2009 - 04:35 pm, by:  Cihan Aday (Cihan) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Matthew, he *did* say full rebuild.

Michael's cheap VRS kit is a good head start.
Matthew Werner
TryHard
Qld
jzz30 TT

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Thursday, August 27, 2009 - 07:02 pm, by:  Matthew Werner (Matto_888) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

some people take things too literally
Cihan Aday
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JZZ30

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Thursday, August 27, 2009 - 07:38 pm, by:  Cihan Aday (Cihan) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

When someone pays me to organise a full rebuild, that is a portion of the part list.

If you look carefully, only the last bit is optional ;)

Standard Toyota head, main and bolts are more expensive than ARP gear which happen to be twice to three times as strong. You're not supposed to re-use stretch type OEM bolts.

You need a VRS (valve regrind set) to rebuild the head, it also includes a new mls head gasket. A 'full rebuild' would mean new oil pump, water pump, tensioners and belts as a matter of course as they're typically out of, or close to being out of spec.

Exhaust stud and cam cover bolt replacement is optional, but for $50-100 well worth it. Cam colver 'screws' i should say, are typically cracked and don't work well, causing oil leaks. Replacing all of the heat hardened factory rubber tubing with silicon is also not necessary.. but you might as well while the engine is out.

The viscous fan, at up to 18 years, and trillions? of rotations old - typically don't work as they should (engage when the radiator is ~80 degrees).

Depends how much attention to detail you pay

'Freshening her up' != full rebuild.
David Duffell
Tinkerer
nsw
soarer tt

Posts: 79
Reg: 09-2005

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Friday, September 18, 2009 - 12:09 am, by:  David Duffell (Duffsta) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

What would that sort of thing cost as i think i've blown my head and was considering a full rebuild

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