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Viet Nguyen
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QLD
1JZ-GTE

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Thursday, January 28, 2010 - 09:41 pm, by:  Viet Nguyen (Jjjones) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Guys,

I just bought my first car, a TT Soarer last week. I didn't inspect the car thoroughly enough (very foolish of me) and now have noticed that there is an oil leak.

The leak seems to be coming near the front of the car close to the drivers side

The car seems to leak a few drops, usually after the car has just been used.

I got myself a torch and looked under the car, the leak seems to be coming from just this one spot. I'm not very knowledgeable with cars, but I did some googling and it seems to be coming from the oil pan? I took a few photos for you guys to see.

As you can see from the pictures, theres been a previous attempt to fix this. Theres a lot of glue type material all over it.

Can anyone tell me which part of the car this is? Do you think it would be easy for a mechanic to repair?

I havn't taken this to a mechanic yet but will so within a week or two when i have enough money.

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Matt Newman
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Thursday, January 28, 2010 - 10:08 pm, by:  Matt Newman (Soarersrock) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

you pore bugger your sump is mangled might be an idea to find a cheep one on here or find out if your mechanic is able to braze up the crack for you but either way you need a new sump plug and sump gasket.
good luck with it
matt
Austen Menze
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WA
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Thursday, January 28, 2010 - 10:40 pm, by:  Austen Menze (Mercyfulfate) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeah looks like the sump was damaged and then repaired poorly with silicon. Shouldn't cost too much to fix.
Austen Menze
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Thursday, January 28, 2010 - 10:40 pm, by:  Austen Menze (Mercyfulfate) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

By fix I mean replace!
Matthew Sharpe
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Friday, January 29, 2010 - 06:09 am, by:  Matthew Sharpe (Madmatt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Wow, doesn't even look like they have used gasket grade silicon! Thats a major bodge job! Hope they haven't tried to do too many other "fixes"
Viet Nguyen
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Friday, January 29, 2010 - 08:55 am, by:  Viet Nguyen (Jjjones) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Cheers guys, ill take it to a mechanic asap. Do you think it would be hard for a mechanic to source a replacement? Or is it as simple as ordering from Toyota?
Peter Nitschke
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Friday, January 29, 2010 - 09:20 am, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Get a second hand one from the wreckers or ask in the Wanted To Buy section here.
Cameron Laufer
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Friday, January 29, 2010 - 09:46 am, by:  Cameron Laufer (Ivboost) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have a spare pan if you need it, I'm in Brisbane. Also it is a pain in the ass job as you can not take off the sump with out undoing the engine mounts (fowls on the cross member) and so on. No gasket required as toyota use gasket maker to seal this to the upper sump. Pm me if you need anything. Cam
Viet Nguyen
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Friday, January 29, 2010 - 10:44 am, by:  Viet Nguyen (Jjjones) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Cheers Cameron, i've sent you a pm.
Aaron Casey
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Friday, January 29, 2010 - 05:29 pm, by:  Aaron Casey (Blownminiturbo) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

oh thats nasty if you get a new sump she will be sweet just make sure you raise the engine as cameron says and make sure the surfaces are really clean when you put the gasket goo on so it seals properly and dont overtighten bolts as will strip as they go into the alloy sump.
Viet Nguyen
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JZZ30

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Sunday, January 31, 2010 - 06:35 pm, by:  Viet Nguyen (Jjjones) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi guys, I was able to obtain a spare oil pan ( thanks Cameron). Just wondering if there's anyone from Brisbane who can help replace it for me. I'm willing to pay for the service of course. If not, can anyone recommend me a mechanic or someone who can? (is it something k-mart would do?)
Cameron informed me that it's not a straight forward replace job and that the mountain would need to be lifted.

Thanks again guys.
Danny Dinh
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Sunday, January 31, 2010 - 10:36 pm, by:  Danny Dinh (Xtc) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yes, it's a hell of a job. Suggest to remove the engine and replace all the serviceable parts while you're at it. Also, clean the oil pick up too.
David Grab
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Sunday, January 31, 2010 - 11:19 pm, by:  David Grab (Blastedbyasoarer) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The guys that sold you the car without telling you is a wanker. I bet you it had the under cover tray hiding it. Seriously that looks was dodgey it is crazy, could onloy be worse if he used masking tape. Sorry to hear you had a bad expereince to dampen your excitment. I reckon go back to the guy that you bought the car from and get them to fork out for half the costs at a minimum.
Matt Sartori
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Sunday, January 31, 2010 - 11:37 pm, by:  Matt Sartori (Klutch) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

And i thought i was dodgy at fixing problems...
Chris Prak
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Monday, February 01, 2010 - 02:06 am, by:  Chris Prak (Carizma) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

is it just me or does it just look like a poor bolt was used? wheres the crack? wonder how long the oil has been dumped and changed... probably just a top up every now and then.
James Wilson
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Tuesday, February 02, 2010 - 09:25 pm, by:  James Wilson (Ser493) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Before you get too carried away why don't you get an ezi out remove the silicone take out the sump plug and inspect the sump for damage...I would bet you only need a new sump plug maybe even a retap and a different sump plug bolt. If the sump has a crack it may even be able to be repaired whilst still on the car...I mean it's definately not the worst I have ever seen..Dont go too nuts if you dont have too
Viet Nguyen
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JZZ30

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Wednesday, February 03, 2010 - 09:34 am, by:  Viet Nguyen (Jjjones) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks for all the advice guys, fortunately Cameron offered to help me replace the oil pan. It's all working great now and no leaks whatsoever!

He said the threading on the bolt was non-existant and the bolt was pretty much held on by the silicon

Which makes me wonder because the guy i bought it off had receipts of a service being done including an oil change. This was dated Start of November last year.

Cameron mentioned the oil being blacker than black, which sounds like an oil change was never done that recent.

The guy who "serviced" the car happens to be the same guy on the road worthy certificate...

ah well... you live and learn.
Cameron Laufer
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Wednesday, February 03, 2010 - 09:54 am, by:  Cameron Laufer (Ivboost) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The thread in the sump was striped and a crack running up from the drain hole aswell as the bolt being striped, The sump bolt was help in by only silicone and was easy to remove by hand. I'm surprised it didn't fall out while driving.

There is not enough material to re-tap a larger thread in a jz sump.
Aaron Casey
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Friday, February 05, 2010 - 07:06 pm, by:  Aaron Casey (Blownminiturbo) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

yeah its a thin steel sump you can retap a thick alloy one.
good to see cameron helped out. thats what this site is good for. well done cameron. :-)
Michael O'Driscoll
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Saturday, February 13, 2010 - 10:23 am, by:  Michael O'Driscoll (Remickz) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Maybe in that case, the mechanic did do the oil change, stuffed it, did a dodgy fix, and the RWC, without the seller even knowing?

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