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Rhys Salmon
Tinkerer
NSW
Single T04

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Reg: 01-2010

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Tuesday, February 16, 2010 - 04:19 pm, by:  Rhys Salmon (1jzt04) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Guys,

just got my car dynoed after some work, i have the following mods:

To4 conversion
3” Exhaust straight through
2.5” alloy piping & front mount
New alloy radiator
Stock Internals
850cc Sard injectors
3000rom stall converter
Manualised & worked Auto
Standard Open Wheeler.
225L/PH wabro fuel pump

238rwkw when piggy backed and Dynoed

Looking on this site, I was expecting just over 300rwkw.

I am being told that the Stallie is loosing a lot of power and also that the original intake plenum is stopping any higher boost.

I can understand the plenum but the stallie?

If this is correct can you let me know and also where to go for an aftermarket plenum?
Boris Siljanoski
TryHard
Western Australia
Soarer GZ20 TT

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Tuesday, February 16, 2010 - 04:37 pm, by:  Boris Siljanoski (Z2tt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Rubbish, The original intake plenum can support much more than 300rwkw.

As for the stall converter I don't know.

How much boost was it running when tuned?
Rhys Salmon
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NSW
Single T04

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Tuesday, February 16, 2010 - 04:37 pm, by:  Rhys Salmon (1jzt04) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Boris, they are only running 18 PSI. i though is should be well over that.
Boris Siljanoski
TryHard
Western Australia
Soarer GZ20 TT

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Tuesday, February 16, 2010 - 04:42 pm, by:  Boris Siljanoski (Z2tt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

With a higher flowing turbo like yours, running at 18 PSI you should be getting around the 300rwkw mark.

Maybe the tuner cant tune well?
Rhys Salmon
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Single T04

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Tuesday, February 16, 2010 - 04:46 pm, by:  Rhys Salmon (1jzt04) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

that sounds about right, the only thing that baffles me then is the stallie call.. if i added 100hp to 310 it pretty much makes 300rwkw.

in theory once the stallie grabs it should operate same as usual and produce the same horsepower at the higher RPM.

very confusing.
Walter Gillmore
DieHard
QLD
TT JZZ30

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Tuesday, February 16, 2010 - 05:22 pm, by:  Walter Gillmore (Cl33pa) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

your fueling might be too rich still. is the turbo a genuine to4? and what type? to4e, d or z?
Bobby Green
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QLD
TT

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Tuesday, February 16, 2010 - 06:07 pm, by:  Bobby Green (Nash) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I went from 440rwhp to 510rwhp by going from 3" dump to 3.5" dump and a 80mm intercooler to a 110mm intercooler. This is with a GT35r and a 3 litre bottom end. Spooled faster and more power. Those are cheap things to look at first. The Warlbro 225 will probably need upgraded as well.
Grant Rowan
TryHard
QLD
jzz30 GT3582r

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Tuesday, February 16, 2010 - 06:48 pm, by:  Grant Rowan (Booster13psi) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

What gear did they do the dyno runs in?
Rhys Salmon
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NSW
Single T04

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Wednesday, February 17, 2010 - 06:06 am, by:  Rhys Salmon (1jzt04) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

hi guys, not sure which t04 it is all i know is it s a gas research t04 with a .6 rear i think.

i think you might be onto something with the gearing Grant, they would have doen it in 2nd on the shifter however im pretty sure this is 3rd in the box. When i get up it a little and shift from 1st too 2nd it then goes to 3rd by itself and D is overdrive.. this might make a little difference, they are doing a final run this morning so i will get them to try this and see what happens.
Grant Rowan
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Wednesday, February 17, 2010 - 06:51 am, by:  Grant Rowan (Booster13psi) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeah you definitely need to do the final run in 3rd gear.
Aaron Casey
Goo Roo
nsw
'94 jzz30 gttl, 2 mini's one supercharged :-)

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Wednesday, February 17, 2010 - 09:39 am, by:  Aaron Casey (Blownminiturbo) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

if they do it in 2nd you will show less powwr but alot more torque due to gear reduction
Rhys Salmon
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Single T04

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Wednesday, February 17, 2010 - 10:28 am, by:  Rhys Salmon (1jzt04) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

hmm.. they did do it in 2nd again.. i think i migh stop worrying about the output on paper and revert to how it actually goes.. i mean i have had quick cars before that show very little power on paper... and built tough V8's with big power but really not that quick on the street.

thanks for the help guys.
Austen Menze
DieHard
WA
GT-TL

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Wednesday, February 17, 2010 - 09:55 pm, by:  Austen Menze (Mercyfulfate) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If you get it over 110kph and floor it it should hold 3rd with OD off
Matt Sartori
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Rx7

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Thursday, February 18, 2010 - 12:09 am, by:  Matt Sartori (Klutch) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Austen Menze wrote on Wednesday, February 17, 2010 - 09:55 pm:

If you get it over 110kph and floor it it should hold 3rd with OD off





Rhys Salmon wrote on Tuesday, February 16, 2010 - 04:19 pm:

Manualised & worked Auto




Or maybe i'm the one reading him wrong
Rhys Salmon
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NSW
Single T04

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Thursday, February 18, 2010 - 11:01 am, by:  Rhys Salmon (1jzt04) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You got it right Matt.. it is manualised & Worked.. However not how i would expect.
Overdrive is disengaged and when on the highway D is overdrive.
when you go into 2nd it holds 2nd for a bit then goes too 3rd itself (as it 2nd & #rd are both alinged with 2 (2) on the shifter.
Got it back yesterday and it runs like it dynoed 238kw.. but now it idols very rough like a big air leak and also rattles.. flutters when on boost.. sounds like coming form the turbo or turbo side.... GRRRR
Rob Rojo
Goo Roo
NSW
TT

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Thursday, February 18, 2010 - 09:36 pm, by:  Rob Rojo (Rob_tt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If you can, upload a copy of your dyno printout.

Also are you running a Cat?
Rob Rojo
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TT

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Thursday, February 18, 2010 - 09:37 pm, by:  Rob Rojo (Rob_tt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Also what piggyback are you running?
Rhys Salmon
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NSW
Single T04

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Thursday, February 25, 2010 - 10:40 am, by:  Rhys Salmon (1jzt04) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

HI,

Sorry Rob i cany upload the dyno sheet (in technically challenged) it is running an Exede piggy back.
Walter i found out that it is a To4B (old school) with 0.84 rear.
Found the problem with the flutter (and assume power loss)

the exhaust manifold has corroded from heat and snapped through one of the welds. it was heat taped which masked the issue for a while.

rewelded it now and putting back together tonight. should be running to potential.. hopefully!

thanks

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