Tuesday, June 22, 2010 - 12:25 pm, by: Corey McGregor(B00x)
Hi!
Been searching around for a while, and it seems keeping a twin turbo set up is quite frowned upon. Shame on me, then?
I plan on keeping it, assuming funds don't get the better of me. The only manifold I've been able to find however is the one on suprastore (http://www.suprastore.com/1jtwtuexmast.html)
Has any like minded twin lover had any experience with this manifold? Turbo sizes? Piping issues? I had a quick search and didn't find any reference to it.
Aside from "go single", I'd be interested to hear opinions or recommendations for sources of other manifolds/turbos/etc? Not sure I'm going to like purchasing 2 TD06's..
Tuesday, June 22, 2010 - 06:38 pm, by: Jeff Bedsor(Jeff_bedsor)
Corey, why bother with new turbos? What sort of power are you chasing, you could just keep the stock turbos and wind up the boost. Have a look at what I've done - http://soarercentral.com/sc-forum/messages/263854/306610.html?1259533511 I have to admit though, those manifolds look good, a couple of second hand VF35's or TDO4's from a wrx would be a reasonably priced option and should get over 300kw
Tuesday, June 22, 2010 - 08:45 pm, by: Corey McGregor(B00x)
Scott, excellent! emailed the guy, noticed he's got intakes as well - might be tempted, still trying to sort out what I wanna do.. Many thanks for the link though!
Jeff, Nice results by the way, but I'm already hitting boost cut fairly easily.. not too keen on getting them built with steel wheels or hi-flowed either. Mainly because that's still only going to lead to limitations that I'm not sure I want. My exhaust is only a 3" split with total 4 mufflers and a hi-flow cat. I've got a unichip tuned for this on a factory manual all with less than 90,000 on the clock. Apparently bigger fuel pump has been done for me (still gotta check that out), and injectors are the same story. FMIC, pod filter, and basically everything else is stock. I'm not entirely sure what I'm after. Half the the project is figuring out what the guy who sold it to me _actually_ did, in comparison to what he _said_ he did. (And if Shannon is reading this, no, I'm not talking about you, haha)
Unfortunately, my transplant project that I was hoping to get well planned out, has suddenly become more of a rush since I busted the bearing in one of my turbos just yesterday..
If anyone would care to make suggestions how I should spend my meager $6000, feel free to suggest ideas / suppliers (I'm a north Brisbane boy) / ask questions, haha
Thursday, June 24, 2010 - 05:34 pm, by: Scott Wilkes(Scottywilkes)
he has a account on ebay as well mate, forgot the name, just search soarer and you will find Clean cam gear covers, this is him and you will get a contact of that
Friday, August 13, 2010 - 11:02 am, by: David Barnes(Toyota_celsior)
Interesting, I have also thought about going the gt28 route, (These are the stock turbos off an S15 Silvia correct?)
If you didn't purchase the manifold from NZ, What ones did you end up getting? Are they the same product as the ones from NZ? Obviously to suit a t25/8 flange.
If you dont mind me asking how much did the manifolds and turbos set you back.
This seems to be a far better idea then going single, converting from smaller twins to a larger single just seems like a down grade from a drivability point of view if you ask me, And I love the torque the stock turbo's create, But I hate the smoke and the woe they are going to die any moment.
As recommended earlier by Scott. He was okay to deal with, but took a bit longer to produce than I was hoping.. Paid about ~$670 incl. postage, no external waste-gate, and I got him to make it with slightly thicker piping.
The turbos I got from justjap.com.au for around ~$3000 delivered.
And I totally agree with you on staying twin ;D I'd prefer low/mid torque over the lag of a single any day - but its all personal preference =)
If you don't mind either, let me know what material the NZ manifolds are made out of if you find out.
Friday, August 13, 2010 - 07:08 pm, by: Daniel Clarke(Dieseltrain)
Not sure if you realise , but a gt3076r with a 0.6 or even 0.8 housing on a decent manifold would actually have better boost response than twin gt 2860's
Saturday, August 14, 2010 - 02:00 pm, by: James Wilson(Ser493)
David that does sound like a good cheap set up. You should try and knock up some sort of budget kit. I reckon having the twins is a big advantage over the single purely based on response. Then again 12's with the factory setup is probably possible too? Didn't Rob Rojo do that?
Sunday, August 15, 2010 - 05:33 pm, by: Ben Lipman(Ben12a)
I may misunderstand this, so be wary...
If you use the two of the turbos off a 2 litre 4 cylinder on a 2.5 litre six cylinder, aren't you effectively putting each of those turbos on a 1.25 litre 3 cylinder engine?
Without looking at anything else, that says "more laggy" to me, but could flow more air/develop more power when boost comes on.
As I said, I'm no expert. I like the fact you are looking at new avenues. Taking OEM gear from one application and using it for another used to be the way we modified cars when I was a kid. We couldn't rush out and buy kits etc.
Tuesday, August 17, 2010 - 06:42 am, by: Ian Clifford(Fezwa)
i have ran a 12.6 in my hilux on stock twins and its stock apart from a turbo back exhaust, cooler and pod. the gearbox also has a convertor and valve body
Tuesday, August 17, 2010 - 09:28 am, by: David Barnes(Toyota_celsior)
Ben,
These turbos are still small enough to bring up 0.8bar on the stock stall.
Of corse its going to be more laggy then stock. I never said it wasnt going to be haha. Your correct, each turbo will be driving by 1.25 litre 3cylinder. But have you driven a wrx?? They arnt exactly lag monsters. Rather lag free. These turbos will be the equiv the HKS t3g's, More laggy then a 3076r but still net 300rwkw, fingers crossed. Im happy with 270+ tho.
I think its great people get into the 11's on stock turbos, but its all in the 60 foot times. I personally find the stock turbos run out of puff and thats a little boring and dead in the top end.
Either way,
There only seems to be a handful of guys that are lucky enough to not blow there stock turbos on stockish boost let alone enough to get you into the 11's. I don't want to hear storys of stock ceramics being reliable. Because the general consensus is they are going to die sooner or later. Mine are already on the way out, And think it would be rather silly to remove them just to replace with another set of stockers, Hence the upgrade.
Ideally, Soarers are too heavy, 1jz are too small. But im poor and its all I can afford hence why I am not going the proven route of gt3076r for a street/drag combination. Its all in the name of how fast can I go for how little.
I will start a project thread when all the parts are collected
Tuesday, August 17, 2010 - 01:54 pm, by: James Wilson(Ser493)
I reckon you could get a t70 on it for around 5-6k ish(using cheap manifold ect)...Twins are great but you better really crunch the numbers on a twin project before you begin. I'm betting it will be more pricey that first expected.