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Austen Menze
Goo Roo
WA
GT-TL

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Saturday, December 18, 2010 - 10:46 am, by:  Austen Menze (Mercyfulfate) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm having a bit of trouble maintaining traction when I give it the beans. Even from about 50 or 60km, stamp on it and it goes sideways. As fun as that is, I'm getting sick of it when I really need the car to go forward e.g. domestic v8 next to me.

I am running 18/245 Nexen N3000 tyres on the back which I was told are decent tyres, but I have my doubts as they were pretty cheap. Last time I had a wheel alignment I asked them to set it up for good traction.

What do you guys do to increase traction? Just get better tyres?

Cheers in advance :-)
Scott Wilkes
Goo Roo
Tasmania
92 TT Factory Manual, 70 HG GTS Monaro

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Saturday, December 18, 2010 - 10:59 am, by:  Scott Wilkes (Scottywilkes) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

nexcen, cheap tyres and dont grip for anything, have them on my skid rims and will smoke them up in 3rd under boost no problems LOL

Ive found maxi MAV1 victras are extremely sticky for cheaper tyres. Ive got them on the back of the soarer at the moment and its great, no problems at 20psi with the single, 1st gear will smoke them no worries though :-)

But yeah for cheapoer tyres i can highly recomend them.
Austen Menze
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WA
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Saturday, December 18, 2010 - 11:06 am, by:  Austen Menze (Mercyfulfate) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks Scott, I'll have a look at those :-)
How much did you pay for them?
Dave Rose
Goo Roo
wa
uzz31 v8

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Saturday, December 18, 2010 - 12:55 pm, by:  Dave Rose (Sand_groper) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

press the TRC button (if you have one )
Shane Haverkamp
TryHard
nsw
soarer TT

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Saturday, December 18, 2010 - 02:12 pm, by:  Shane Haverkamp (Havabeer) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

my 255 faulkens where about $290 each if i remember, they're pretty decent in the dry, kinda useless wet
Steven Anderson
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NSW
UZZ31 Manual

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Saturday, December 18, 2010 - 02:59 pm, by:  Steven Anderson (Cusscuss) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

try kumho ku36 for cheap and grippy, bit of a handfull in the wet though apparently.
Matt Newman
TryHard
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soarer tt

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Saturday, December 18, 2010 - 03:04 pm, by:  Matt Newman (Soarersrock) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

toyo proxies 4's or the new t1 sport's ill be going for the t1 sport's when i go for tyres soon
as they have the same grip levels as the old t1r's but are non directional so you can rotate them
Austen Menze
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WA
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Saturday, December 18, 2010 - 06:27 pm, by:  Austen Menze (Mercyfulfate) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks will check out all of the above :-)

The Toyo's are pretty expensive though
Scott Wilkes
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Tasmania
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Saturday, December 18, 2010 - 06:47 pm, by:  Scott Wilkes (Scottywilkes) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

maxxis are about 220 for 18s at about 255s
Matt Newman
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soarer tt

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Saturday, December 18, 2010 - 06:48 pm, by:  Matt Newman (Soarersrock) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i have the proxies 4's now and couldn't be happier with them the only reason im up grading it to try and get some more miles out of them
Shaydan Penniment
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WA
4.0GT V8

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Saturday, December 18, 2010 - 09:19 pm, by:  Shaydan Penniment (Shaydy) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Never thought i'd hear the day where Austen would say he wants more traction.
Daniel Clarke
Goo Roo
NSW
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Saturday, December 18, 2010 - 11:40 pm, by:  Daniel Clarke (Dieseltrain) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have Khumo KU31's on my car . 265/35/18's on the rear and reasonably tractable :-) Very impressive dry and wet performance .

Also run them on the front in 235/40/18 .
James Wilson
TryHard
sa
TT

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Sunday, December 19, 2010 - 09:14 am, by:  James Wilson (Ser493) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

spray your tyres with some belt grip, comes in a green can. Used to use it on my drag car tyres. Makes even crappy tyres perform a heap better. Only problem is it doesnt last long.
Daniel Clarke
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NSW
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Sunday, December 19, 2010 - 10:27 am, by:  Daniel Clarke (Dieseltrain) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Its illegal to use any type of compound spray on tyres at the drags now .

Buy some wider better tyres or turn down the power :-)
Matthew Sharpe
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North Island
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Sunday, December 19, 2010 - 12:32 pm, by:  Matthew Sharpe (Madmatt) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I would swear by the Proxes 4's - best "budget" tyre I've ever owned - not that I'd have many traction problems with my setup - but they are fantastic wet or dry.

But yeah, don't cheep out on tyres - get the absolute best you can afford.
Ian Clifford
Tinkerer
qld
hilux 1jz

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Sunday, December 19, 2010 - 12:46 pm, by:  Ian Clifford (Fezwa) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

federal 595 super street. are cheap and quiet good to
cheers ian
Adam Foster
DieHard
SA
tt

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Sunday, December 19, 2010 - 01:22 pm, by:  Adam Foster (Adam) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

the maxxis mav1 aren't a great tire. about as good as the nexen.
Austen Menze
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WA
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Sunday, December 19, 2010 - 09:39 pm, by:  Austen Menze (Mercyfulfate) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I hate conflicting statements haha, will check out all of the above.

I'm not after awesome tyres, just something with a bit more grip than an oil slick.

Only downsides is I might not be able to smoke them as easy though haha
Aaron deVisser
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South Australia
TT

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Sunday, December 19, 2010 - 10:04 pm, by:  Aaron deVisser (Bigdiv) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I wish i had a traction problem with my car... all my mods and it still grips.. lol
Chris Round
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WA
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Monday, December 20, 2010 - 12:39 am, by:  Chris Round (Hermie) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I found the Maxxis MAV-1 was a good tyre for traction, but tread wear was no good - chewed out in about a year or 10,000km (no I don't do burnouts everywhere ....)

and after running on Bob Jane "performance" tyres for about 3 weeks now, I can definitely say stay away from them if you want traction .... they sent me sliding on the last cruise! might need to send them back to the front!
David Grima
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Monday, December 20, 2010 - 01:50 am, by:  David Grima (Maltezr) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Austen I have ACHILLES ATR SPORT 245/35/ZR19 on my Soarer.....they were very affordable at $220 each and I have found them quite grippy so far when I give it stick, but saying that, my car is not modded like yours lol..... I have done close to 5000km with them and they have hardly worn so far :-)

I was gonna go for toyo proxes but for my 19's the price was like upwards of $360 each and I though fck that... at the time

oh BTW..... why are ya buying tyres for bro? arent ya getting those new rims and tyres soon anyway?
Justin Camilleri
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Monday, December 20, 2010 - 02:04 am, by:  Justin Camilleri (Just) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I can only explain what I have experienced with, Maxxis MA-Z1 Victras. I have found them to be a great tyre. I have had them for 1 year and 8 months, done 25,000 kms. Plenty of tread left. I have just looked at one source online selling the same spec Maxxis tyres and are priced at $180. $86 cheaper than what I paid new when I purchased mine. Mind you I don't own a high hp soarer, only 250 odd kw at wheels.
Matthew Sharpe
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North Island
JZZ31

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Monday, December 20, 2010 - 06:24 am, by:  Matthew Sharpe (Madmatt) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My Mother in law's Altezza has Achilles tyres on it - don't know what model - but they are the worst I've ever driven on. I thought Achilles was a very appropriate name for them since they are definitely the Achilles heel of the car now.

Again guys, don't buy cheep arse South East Asian tyres - stick with European, Japanese, Australian or American - you are talking about saving cents per KM here for something that is THE most important safety and enjoyment factor on the car. If it costs you an extra $60 per tyre to get a Yokohama or a Bridgestone, who cares!!!
David Grima
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Monday, December 20, 2010 - 12:45 pm, by:  David Grima (Maltezr) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Matthew Sharpe wrote on Monday, December 20, 2010 - 06:24 am:

My Mother in law's Altezza has Achilles tyres on it - don't know what model - but they are the worst •••• I've ever driven on.




how old are the tyres though mate?....probably fkn worn out any tyre is Mine are still relatively new and I haven't had any probs regarding grip in the wet or dry lol....not saying there the BEST tyre by any means but for the price I think their ok.
Austen Menze
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WA
GT-TL

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Monday, December 20, 2010 - 07:49 pm, by:  Austen Menze (Mercyfulfate) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeah getting new rims+tyres as a package Dave but want to get some semi-decent rubber on the back at some stage.

The Maxxis MAV-1 reportedly have great traction for the price!

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