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Veronica Mead
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Tuesday, January 11, 2011 - 06:31 pm, by:  Veronica Mead (Vronika) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

so here is my problem.. i would love if someone had a solution!
car has lack of power, the O/D light flashes and ECT red flashes up on the dash.. it goes away if i put it in over drive but my car struggles to do 80, i have japanese wrighting flashing every time i put my foot down or break, i took a photo and the manual said it ment LOW BRAKEFLUID.. but my brake fluid is fine? most importantly..
my car is misfiring sometimes worse than others.. i just replaced my ecu and it is still mis firing.. sometimes almost to a stall when in idol.. i did the paper clip test and even drove with the paper clip in but still misfiring.. iv got new connectors and have had a play with my coil packs from my previous soarer.. what do you think it could be?? anyone??
Matthew Hamono
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Tuesday, January 11, 2011 - 06:40 pm, by:  Matthew Hamono (1jz_kid) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i had similar misfiring problem, it only happened once but i did get an error code that my knock sensor had a problem, so maybe see if that might be where the fault is?
Chris Prak
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Tuesday, January 11, 2011 - 08:17 pm, by:  Chris Prak (Carizma) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Check your Trans fluid? Doesn't the O/D and ECT light flashing mean there something wrong with the gearbox?

The brake fluid warning probably appears when you brake and accelerate because of the force sloshing the fluid around. Maybe do a flush and top up again?

What do you mean by paperclip test? Bridging the diagnostics ports?

Run the diagnostics for fault codes and see what error codes you get and let us know.

Diagnostics walkthrough:
Car off. Never start car in diagnostics mode.
Bridge E1 and Te1 together in the diagnostics port in the engine bay.
Turn key to 'ON'. (Dash should light up).
Press scroll (left of dash).
Wait 20-30 seconds it should cycle through codes and about 15 seconds between each code, so wait.
Once it has done a full cycle, turn off, remove bridge.

As for the misfire, buy new spark plugs. Copper BKR6E are good enough. If it doesnt solve it, you probably have cracks under the rubber boots of your coilpacks, thus causing misfire.
Gary Poloskei
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Wednesday, January 12, 2011 - 08:31 am, by:  Gary Poloskei (Mikrucio) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Try another MAP sensor
Veronica Mead
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Wednesday, January 12, 2011 - 03:28 pm, by:  Veronica Mead (Vronika) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

dont mean to sounds stupid, bu what does a knock sensor do??

i took my car to a transmission shop, where they did a service flushed and changed the fluid and also changed the solinoid which they assured me would fix the problem.. $800 later and no change. but it does feel like the gear box is slipping sometimes its very sluggish..

yes bridging the fp and the b port sorry i should have explained!
i was going to take it into a workshop tomorrow and get a scan through diagnostics.. is that the same as following the steps and doing it my self?
thanks for your advice il get some sparkplugs now! let you no how i go!
Veronica Mead
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Wednesday, January 12, 2011 - 03:41 pm, by:  Veronica Mead (Vronika) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

so i just did the diagnostics walkthrough.. and the only thing that came up was CHARGE and it just stayed there?
Chris Prak
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Wednesday, January 12, 2011 - 08:42 pm, by:  Chris Prak (Carizma) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Turn the key all the way, but don't start the car. Then press 'scroll' on the lower part of the dash behind the window wiper stalk.

When you say it doesn't go past 80kmph, does the gearbox change gears?

I suggest asking a fellow QLD member about a reliable workshop that knows their Toyota Soarers, so you don't get ripped off.
Veronica Mead
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Thursday, January 13, 2011 - 02:04 pm, by:  Veronica Mead (Vronika) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

iv tryed the test again and i did put it all the way across to the one just before start.. on? and still nothing hapened it just said charge? i waited for 5 minutes and nothing.. ? sometimes it chages gear and sometimes not.. it has selective working!
Chris Prak
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Thursday, January 13, 2011 - 06:27 pm, by:  Chris Prak (Carizma) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If you're putting into gear and its not moving, check the trans fluid. No trans fluid means it can't grip so the drivetrain won't turn.

Did you press scroll button on the dash?? Wait, does your dash have a scroll button??
Veronica Mead
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Friday, January 14, 2011 - 07:37 pm, by:  Veronica Mead (Vronika) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

there is trans fluid.. and its been flushed and changed :-( i just changed the spark plus.. epic fail. i might try the coil packs next! its going into a shop on monday to have a diagnostics scan hopefully this will give me some answers ahhhh i could drive it to the dumb if it wasn't like a child to me.
i bridge the ports then turned the key to on which was the one before start i pressed scroll and waited even 5 minutes .. i held down scroll i tried everything, the only thing that happens is CHARGE. so this is not good yea? the last spark plug i pulled out was covered in oil.. it looks expensive. how do we no when to give up! its been 4 years! nothing but trouble grrr
Chris Prak
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Friday, January 14, 2011 - 08:15 pm, by:  Chris Prak (Carizma) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If there are no codes, then it's not an electrical fault and all sensors are giving the OK. In saying that, if the battery has been reset/ECU changed, then fault codes may have been reset. But, even when you press scroll and everything OK, its should say 'ENG OK', strange.

With the misfire, find out which cylinder it is. Do this by starting the engine and pulling off one connector at a time. The one that makes NO difference is the one thats playing up. Oil on plugs usually means you have a leaking cam cover.
Veronica Mead
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Monday, January 17, 2011 - 05:53 pm, by:  Veronica Mead (Vronika) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

ok so i took it to get the diagnostic scan today.. it said it was the solinoid valve which i have already replaced, so they think its the transmission ecu, does anyone no where i can find one? but i dont know how this will fix my missfire :-(.. he also said there was a oil leak around my rocket cover? said i needed new gasket or seal or something..one step at a time i suppose!
Sebastian Grant
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Monday, January 17, 2011 - 06:42 pm, by:  Sebastian Grant (Saabg) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Veronica Mead wrote on Tuesday, January 11, 2011 - 06:31 pm:

i just replaced my ecu



Veronica Mead wrote on Monday, January 17, 2011 - 05:53 pm:

so they think its the transmission ecu



Your engine and transmission ecu are the one unit so it's not that. Your mechanic doesn't know soarers so don't go back there.

{Veronica Mead,Wednesday, January 12, 2011 - 03:28 pm,$800 later and no change.}
Should be no change, no charge.


Veronica Mead wrote on Monday, January 17, 2011 - 05:53 pm:

he also said there was a oil leak around my rocket cover?



You can buy a new one from Ebay very cheaply and it's a very easy job to do yourself but I doubt that this is your problem.

How suddenly did your car start playing up? Did it change over night or did it gradually start displaying these symptoms?
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Monday, January 17, 2011 - 06:49 pm, by:  Evan Kaio (Knave) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sounds like your Soarer has gone into 'limp mode'.

Have you got a check engine light, lighting up on your dash when you are driving?
It is a yellow light.

What model TT have you got?

Check the coil pack wiring.
Brett Harrison
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Monday, January 17, 2011 - 07:06 pm, by:  Brett Harrison (Bretto) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Did I miss something or didn't you use std OBD ?

Could just be a faulty knock sensor,

12 RPM Signal
13 RPM Signal
14 Ignition Signal
15 Ignition Signal
16 Electronically Controlled Transmission Control Signal
17 CMP No. 1
18 CMP No. 2
21 Main O2S & Heater Signal
22 ECT Sensor Signal
24 IAT Sensor Signal
25 Air–Fuel Ratio Lean Malfunction
26 Air–Fuel Ratio Rich Malfunction
27 Sub O2S Signal
28 Main O2S
29 Sub O2S
31 & 32 Air Flow Meter Signal
35 HAC/Barometric Pressure Sensor Signal
41 TP Sensor Signal
42 VSS Signal
43 Starter Signal
47 Sub TP Sensor
48 Secondary Injection System Malfunction
51 Switch Condition Signal
52 KS Signal
53 Knock Control Signal
55 KS Signal
Veronica Mead
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Monday, January 17, 2011 - 11:54 pm, by:  Veronica Mead (Vronika) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i replaced my fuel pump ecu, they said it was the transmission one which was acting up? it gradually got worse over 6 months i notice a little miss fire now its to the point that it has no pick up and go, also stalled for the first time yesterday! they said that when you take off in drive its taking off in 3rd gear but when you drive in low to 2nd then drive drive it has some power but still missfires. after going to the first mehcanic where they charge me so much and didnt fix it (i asked for my money back but no deal! also called fair trading which was no help either pretty much said they can do what they want) so iv been trying to do as much as i can my self, i was next thinking coil packs but its pretty expensive to change if im wrong.. there is no check engine light coming up if your talking about the one shaped like an engine? but a few times CHECK ENGINE SYSTEM came up but i turned my boost down and its gone.. its a 91.
im sorry brett i have no idea what that means?
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Tuesday, January 25, 2011 - 10:28 am, by:  Daniel Langridge (Daniel_langridge) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Pitty your in Cairns Veronica and not closer i could of had a look for you, not that i know that much :-)
Scott Vim
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Tuesday, January 25, 2011 - 01:11 pm, by:  Scott Vim (1uz1jz) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Those numbers are error codes. You can jump to points in the diagnostics plug and the engine light will start flashing corresponding with a number which will tell you what the fault is (as brett posted). I've had misfire before and it turned out to be the leads. It's almost always electrical so I'm not sure how misfire could related to tranmission.
Veronica Mead
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Wednesday, January 26, 2011 - 08:51 pm, by:  Veronica Mead (Vronika) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i just figured i had more then one problem anyway, so i should replace the leads? so how would i get these codes up? what do i have to do?
feel free to jump on a plane and come have a look daniel! im seriously thinking about chuckn it in and getting an xr6 turbo its heartbreaking everytime something fails!
Shane Haverkamp
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Friday, January 28, 2011 - 09:42 pm, by:  Shane Haverkamp (Havabeer) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

(3rd post)

Diagnostics walkthrough:
Car off. Never start car in diagnostics mode.
Bridge E1 and Te1 together in the diagnostics port in the engine bay, just jam a bit of wire in there to connect them
Turn key to 'ON'. (Dash should light up).
Press scroll (left of dash).
Wait 20-30 seconds it should cycle through codes and about 10 seconds between each code given in a series of flashes, so wait. and not down the series of flashes. 3 blips 2 blips 3 blips... long pause and then will go onto the next one.

or just read this thread here. the one that was on the main page.



http://soarercentral.com/sc-forum/messages/1113/862.html?1100787369
Veronica Mead
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Tuesday, February 08, 2011 - 05:52 pm, by:  Veronica Mead (Vronika) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i already did that and nothing happened.. it just said charge the whole time?
Matt Newman
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Tuesday, February 08, 2011 - 07:39 pm, by:  Matt Newman (Soarersrock) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Veronica pm me your address and ill post up a special bit of wire with some fittings on it that will make it easy to do the Diagnostics

then when it comes up with a code we can help you

cheers matt
Walter Gillmore
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Thursday, February 10, 2011 - 06:11 pm, by:  Walter Gillmore (Cl33pa) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

having a bit of a stab out of the circle here but to me it sounds like what happens when a speed sensore wire from the gearbox to the ecu could be damaged.
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Thursday, February 10, 2011 - 07:31 pm, by:  Boris Siljanoski (Z2tt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm surprised nobody has mentioned this yet, but this sounds like a problem with a Shift Solenoid, common on A340E Boxes.

Common symptoms are the gearbox taking off in 2nd/3rd gear, and never being in the correct gear giving very bad performance.

The error codes should tell all.

The problem will either be

1. Severed harness going to solenoid
2. Faulty solenoid / High resistance
3. Bad connection to solenoid or bad ground.

Mine was number 3.
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Thursday, February 10, 2011 - 10:15 pm, by:  Walter Gillmore (Cl33pa) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

pretty much what i was thinking. 1 and 3.
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Thursday, February 10, 2011 - 10:17 pm, by:  Walter Gillmore (Cl33pa) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Walter Gillmore wrote on Thursday, February 10, 2011 - 06:11 pm:


having a bit of a stab out of the circle here, but to me it sounds like what happens when a speed sensor wire from the gearbox to the ecu is damaged.

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