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Christopher Gagliardi
Tinkerer
Victoria
Soarer jzz30 TT

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Thursday, January 13, 2011 - 06:40 pm, by:  Christopher Gagliardi (Xm4tr1x) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

gday all
normal driving/temp/etc. turn a corner in 2nd foot down and slide for 25 meter down the road.
2nd corner, 15 meters
3rd corner, 10meters
4th, 1 lil whip
5th, doesn't break traction?
WHAT THE HELL!!!!
its p!SSIng me off.
my skyline NEVER did this.
thanks in advance guys.
Scott Wilkes
Goo Roo
Tasmania
92 TT Factory Manual, 70 HG GTS Monaro

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Thursday, January 13, 2011 - 06:55 pm, by:  Scott Wilkes (Scottywilkes) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

why are you sliding sideways on a public road anyway?
Chris Prak
DieHard
WA
JZZ30 Soarer - Twin Snails

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Thursday, January 13, 2011 - 07:26 pm, by:  Chris Prak (Carizma) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

haha love the explanation Smokey Nagata. Maybe some info on the engine, not your sliding skills.
Matt Sartori
DieHard
Western Australia
Rx7

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Thursday, January 13, 2011 - 07:33 pm, by:  Matt Sartori (Klutch) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Gearbox heating up after a few slides and then slipping?
Tony Nguyen
TryHard
Victoria
Soarer TT

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Thursday, January 13, 2011 - 08:26 pm, by:  Tony Nguyen (Blade4546) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

getting to hot and knocking/pulling timing?

if you let it cool down and try again whats it like? or has the power gone and not come back? if so i'd look at boost leak or blocked cat
Brett Harrison
TryHard
QLD
JZZ30

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Thursday, January 13, 2011 - 10:45 pm, by:  Brett Harrison (Bretto) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Geeez, that tops it.. and I thought the flood victims had problems.
Matthew Sharpe
Goo Roo
North Island
JZZ31

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Friday, January 14, 2011 - 05:53 am, by:  Matthew Sharpe (Madmatt) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Its the BCS kicking in (Bogan Control System)

You can disable it by selling your Soarer and going back to something that better suits the bogan driving style, like your aforementioned Skyline.
Richard West
Tinkerer
WA
TT 1JZGTE

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Friday, January 14, 2011 - 08:08 am, by:  Richard West (Omen666) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ahahhaha Matthew!
I think y'all been troll'd
Gary Poloskei
DieHard
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Friday, January 14, 2011 - 09:03 am, by:  Gary Poloskei (Mikrucio) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

lol Matthew!
HAHAHAHA

Could it be your tyres coming up to temp and gaining more traction?
Christopher Gagliardi
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Victoria
Soarer jzz30 TT

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Friday, January 14, 2011 - 09:19 am, by:  Christopher Gagliardi (Xm4tr1x) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

lol matthew some funny sh!t,
i just want the same power all the time, since its my first auto im thinking mayb its slipping but if so wouldnt the revs be high and going nowhere? like a clutch on its way out?.
Tony that idea sounds plausible, but wat can i do to correct this?
Dave Rose
Goo Roo
wa
uzz31 v8

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Friday, January 14, 2011 - 01:55 pm, by:  Dave Rose (Sand_groper) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Is it really that important that you go round corners sideways?it slows the car down, and wears tyres out?
Aiden Cheese
DieHard
QLD
Soarer jzz30

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Friday, January 14, 2011 - 04:57 pm, by:  Aiden Cheese (Chillpen) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Just because I'm his age, please don't judge me the same. :-(
Christopher Gagliardi
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Victoria
Soarer jzz30 TT

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Friday, January 14, 2011 - 06:59 pm, by:  Christopher Gagliardi (Xm4tr1x) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

this is at winton btw and i love drifting.
Daniel Clarke
Goo Roo
NSW
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Friday, January 14, 2011 - 08:27 pm, by:  Daniel Clarke (Dieseltrain) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Tyres heating up and getting grippier ? What mods are done to the car ?
Aaron Casey
Goo Roo
nsw
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Saturday, January 15, 2011 - 12:14 am, by:  Aaron Casey (Blownminiturbo) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

more boost... plain and simple lol
Christopher Gagliardi
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Victoria
Soarer jzz30 TT

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Saturday, January 15, 2011 - 09:48 am, by:  Christopher Gagliardi (Xm4tr1x) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

mods for performance:
torsen diff
stage 1 shift kit wit oil cooler and fan
manualised auto
greddy profec b spec 2 EBC 14psi
adjustable cam gears ex. -5deg in. 1deg
mines ecu
intercooler
bfi
i got 175 psi compression in all 6
ive now noticed im muching petrol way more than usual could it be richening when im trashing causing it to have less power.?
Daniel Clarke
Goo Roo
NSW
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Saturday, January 15, 2011 - 11:27 am, by:  Daniel Clarke (Dieseltrain) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Stop thrashing it and fuel economy will get better .
Austen Menze
Goo Roo
WA
GT-TL

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Saturday, January 15, 2011 - 12:06 pm, by:  Austen Menze (Mercyfulfate) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

5th doesnt break traction because you don't have 5th.

You should certainly be able to slide a lot further than 25meters though, I suggest using your right foot.
Ian Rigby
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NSW
AE102, JZZ30

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Saturday, January 15, 2011 - 01:35 pm, by:  Ian Rigby (Hiro) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Austen Menze wrote on Saturday, January 15, 2011 - 12:06 pm:

5th doesnt break traction because you don't have 5th.




Except he was saying 5th CORNER, not 5th gear.....
James Wilson
TryHard
sa
TT

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Saturday, January 15, 2011 - 01:41 pm, by:  James Wilson (Ser493) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

R154 and a twinny should fix it.
Austen Menze
Goo Roo
WA
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Saturday, January 15, 2011 - 01:56 pm, by:  Austen Menze (Mercyfulfate) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Ian Rigby wrote on Saturday, January 15, 2011 - 01:35 pm:

Except he was saying 5th CORNER, not 5th gear.....



Oh haha oops! In which case wind the boost up. 14psi should slide more than 25 meters easily!

Have you checked for boost/vac leaks?
Ben Lipman
Goo Roo
SA
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Saturday, January 15, 2011 - 03:59 pm, by:  Ben Lipman (Ben12a) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Does it do this every lap?

If so I'd be inclined to think it may be a combination of the tranny slipping and the tyres heating up.

Could it also be some sort of override in the computer- you know computer saying "hey, ho what the ! Something is wrong here, the tyres are slipping severely or something has failed. Better wind it back a bit before knuckle head breaks something"

You don't have traction control do you?
Rowan McMahon
TryHard
WA
GTT-L

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Tuesday, January 18, 2011 - 04:56 am, by:  Rowan McMahon (Mr_eps) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ecu caps??? As engine heats up it kinda falls to bits??
Costa Tsimiklis
Goo Roo
Victoria
386.2 rwkw the old T51S setup - New Setup HKS T51R SPL -Going for 450rwkw on Pump Gas!

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Saturday, January 22, 2011 - 06:39 pm, by:  Costa Tsimiklis (Driftshop) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Chris is cool guys and he can actually side a soarer without spinning :-)

If you have a scroll dash you can do an ECU Diagnostic check.

You could be having ignition problems and spark break down under boost. Change plugs and gap to 0.8 and see how you go. Go as low at 0.6 and see if that makes an improvements.

Also check your boost control and make sure it is working.

Turn the boost control off and see if you're getting the same problems.

Also if you are sliding, you may be getting fuel surge under 1/2 tank.
Christopher Gagliardi
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Victoria
Soarer jzz30 TT

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Monday, January 24, 2011 - 05:53 pm, by:  Christopher Gagliardi (Xm4tr1x) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

thanks Costa, i found that when i run it on 10psi its more responsive and power doesnt die out but the more i turn it up theres a peak of power then dies out bad like a block in exhaust, is it possible for a cat to melt?

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