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Alex MacKenzie
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SA
1JZ-GTE TT

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Wednesday, February 16, 2011 - 01:04 pm, by:  Alex MacKenzie (Technowipeoutmsncom) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

For the past 2 months, I've had white smoke blowing out the exhaust very noticeable. Was defected yesterday for this.

I've spoke to several people and they have suggested that it is the turbo seals that need replacing. I'm wondering whether its possible to put a second hand single turbo to combat this, or a pair of bigger turbos?

And if so what prices I'd be looking at? I'm not too knowledgeable of cars, but I'm ideally looking for a quick and effective solution.

Any help regarding parts, or recommended affordable adelaide specialists would be much appreciated. :-)
Matthew Weaver
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Victoria
Soarer TT

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Wednesday, February 16, 2011 - 04:05 pm, by:  Matthew Weaver (Spinna) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

you can get yourself another set of CT12a on ebay and be saving some money.

but i reckon a nice Single turbo
Matthew Weaver
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Wednesday, February 16, 2011 - 04:09 pm, by:  Matthew Weaver (Spinna) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

but if you was defected then CT12a is the way to go until u get the defected off :-)

then mod away
Tim Ross
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Qld
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Wednesday, February 16, 2011 - 04:26 pm, by:  Tim Ross (Retox) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Not sure about SA requirements, but in QLD, changing from TT to single requires engineering certification.

So, factor in costs of - manfold, turbo, lines, exhaust mods to match, engineering (if applicable)... it will add up.

If all you are doing is looking for a cost effective way to clear the defect and get back on the road as quickly and cheaply as possible, I'd suggest sourcing a replacement stock item :-)
Alex MacKenzie
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Wednesday, February 16, 2011 - 05:23 pm, by:  Alex MacKenzie (Technowipeoutmsncom) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks for the help, think I'll buy a pair of ct12a's, single turbo can come later on.
Brett Harrison
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JZZ30

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Thursday, February 17, 2011 - 09:22 am, by:  Brett Harrison (Bretto) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

What oil are you running ?
Mark Pattel
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Queensland
RT142 with a 1jz and R154 5 speed

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Thursday, February 17, 2011 - 05:40 pm, by:  Mark Pattel  (Mark1414) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Tim Ross wrote on Wednesday, February 16, 2011 - 04:26 pm:

Not sure about SA requirements, but in QLD, changing from TT to single requires engineering certification.




Whats the code for a 'single turbo installation'? Their is none. The only thing in the QLD COP about it is 'LA3' which is 'Turbocharger and supercharger installation' which is only if your car was originally NA.
Alex MacKenzie
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Friday, February 18, 2011 - 01:10 pm, by:  Alex MacKenzie (Technowipeoutmsncom) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Running Shell Helix Hx7-K Synthetic Blend at the moment.

Just took it to Manta Racing, said that its more than likely the turbos and would cost a lot to recondition or install brand new.
Steve Oleksak
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Qld
Soarer T

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Friday, February 18, 2011 - 09:30 pm, by:  Steve Oleksak (Soarin_high) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Mark you are right about the codes. When my single turbo got defected I ended up having many discussions with engineers and the police traffic branch as to what I actually had to do to get the single turbo approved. The traffic branch had no clue what code was required even though they defected me for not having a mod plate in the first place.

I ended up with an LA3 code mod plate as it was the closest one to suit a TT to single conversion. I haven't had any problems since.
Tim Ross
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Sunday, February 27, 2011 - 01:29 pm, by:  Tim Ross (Retox) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Perhaps I didnt word myself the best and I should have added to the end of that sentence something to the effect of - ...to save you a lot of potential grief.

Anyways, thats what I went for as well - LA3.

Basically the way traffic coppers think is "we know its different, we think it should be mod-plated, here's a ticket because its not"

The ticket doesnt prove you're guilty of anything... its just an allegation... in order for you to clear yourself of that allegation, you then have to defend it in court or take it on the chin.

But given the time and cost involved in doing that, its cheaper to just get it plated and save yourself the hassle.

Call it a bit of 'insurance' against some of the boys in blue who wouldnt know their arse from their elbow and write tickets simply to make up quotas
Hayley Rafati
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Vic
TT

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Tuesday, March 15, 2011 - 01:35 pm, by:  Hayley Rafati (Hayley) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hey, I have the same problem, just come from the mechanic and he is quoting me $$$'s for the repair/rebuild, saying it would be cheaper to put a single on.
Not great with the terminology, but I had my ceramics replaced with steel wheels a while a go, and I've got a mate who's prepared to remove and possibly rebuild depending on whats involved. Just wondering if anyone has any ideas where I could get a rebuild kit from and if I'd need to do anything else. I read a post elsewhere saying I needed to have them balanced once they were rebuilt...and does anyone have any experience with this....
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/CT12-TURBO-REBUILD-KIT-SUPRA-SOARER-CHASER-1GGTE-HILUX-/170593852768?pt=AU_Ca r_Parts_Accessories&hash=item27b82f9d60
Any help much appreciated!!!
Drew Rechner
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South Australia
JZZ30 TT

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Tuesday, March 15, 2011 - 01:56 pm, by:  Drew Rechner (Drew1jz) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Hayley Rafati wrote on Tuesday, March 15, 2011 - 01:35 pm:

and I've got a mate who's prepared to remove and possibly rebuild depending on whats involved.




Mate a fair bit is involved. It's serious work to balance them. Not 1 for rookie's. Proper workshop for rebuilding turbo's is required. Try CGC or ATS in Adelaide.
Drew Rechner
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Tuesday, March 15, 2011 - 02:02 pm, by:  Drew Rechner (Drew1jz) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Also that kit is for the older 1G GTE motor's turbo's... Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe they are different turbo's
Hayley Rafati
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Tuesday, March 15, 2011 - 02:05 pm, by:  Hayley Rafati (Hayley) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm in Melbourne, had them rebuilt by ATS in Tullamarine when they were open, but they've closed down since so I cant get in touch... know anyone else then? or at least where I can get the rebuild kit from? I thought these ones might last longer given I dont thrash the car ever and have regular oil changes...
George Funa
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NSW
Soarer TT

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Sunday, March 27, 2011 - 09:47 pm, by:  George Funa (Fun001) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Alex
If there are no boost or power issues
Use a thicker oil and some nulon stop smoke.

I have a similar issue and have been using penrite 15w-60 semi synthetic plus stop smoke and don't have any issues with smoke anymore.

No need to rebuild your turbos
Alex MacKenzie
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SA
1JZ-GTE TT

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Sunday, May 22, 2011 - 01:04 am, by:  Alex MacKenzie (Technowipeoutmsncom) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks George, will look into that.
Chris Lock
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Sunday, May 22, 2011 - 08:07 am, by:  Chris Lock (Sledge) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

but that would only be a temporary fix.
the underlying issue will still be there

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