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Sebastian Grant
Goo Roo
nsw
soarer TT

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Wednesday, June 08, 2011 - 03:02 pm, by:  Sebastian Grant (Saabg) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I've seen YouTube videos and build threads on two soarers you have tuned with t3gs and both of them put my efforts to shame. My power level dropped off 40rwkw from 5600rpm to 6600rpm which is why my tuner believed my dumps needed work. Please, please, please Cihan can you come to Sydney and tune my car???
Sebastian Grant
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nsw
soarer TT

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Wednesday, June 08, 2011 - 03:06 pm, by:  Sebastian Grant (Saabg) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Also Jeff, I think you might be forgetting that very few people have your welding skills or tools. You should give it a nudge and then sell them if you have the time. Most people are in the same boat as me, I can pull turbos, engines out etc but I'm not going anywhere near a welder.
Jeff Bedsor
Goo Roo
QLD
TT

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Wednesday, June 08, 2011 - 07:08 pm, by:  Jeff Bedsor (Jeff_bedsor) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Cihan Aday wrote on Wednesday, June 08, 2011 - 01:50 pm:

Sorry Jeff, i jumped in there. Wasn't directed at you mate.



Cihan, no worries, I didn't think it was. Always open to your opinions and knowledge.
Sebastian, have you opened out the turbo inlet and out piping? It does make a real difference, also I run mine down to about 10.5 AFR under high boost, keeps it cool and makes heaps of power.
Daniel Clarke
Goo Roo
NSW
TT 2.5L 6 cylinder

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Thursday, June 09, 2011 - 09:31 pm, by:  Daniel Clarke (Dieseltrain) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sebastian , Losing power as it revs shows to me weak valve springs are a real possbibilty here for you .

Off topic but anyways . Dumps are cool
Boris Siljanoski
Goo Roo
Western Australia
LS400 + Soarer.

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Thursday, June 09, 2011 - 10:48 pm, by:  Boris Siljanoski (Z2tt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

So Jeff are you saying this whole separating the flows to decrease turbulence with dumps that meet later on (like aftermarket ones), is actually not really the thing that brings more power? It's just the better flow of the pipes? I was always believing that separating the pipes a while "stabilizes" the flow, or is this really not the thing that makes the difference, but only sounds like it does in theory?

I do remember a while ago Cihan said good things about some dumps that this guy made forgot the name of the business Something works was the name, they looked the same shape as the stock ones and size too, and we all said they would not work because they were not "separated", I guess something like this would be easier to fab up

And as for separated wastegate pipe, would that also be a myth? Because I see lots of aftermarket dump pipes for lots of Turbo cars all with the separated design, and the reasons behind it people say is to decrease turbulence?

I remember having a look through my stock dumps, looks very restrictive, if I remember correctly there are quite a few squishes and dents in the pipes which would create flow restrictions, to me it looks like that would need heaps of porting?

Also another thing, could we also consider the power curve rather than the peak power benefits of better flowing dumps? say if some of you guys wanted to do back to back tests on a Dyno with stock and ported or aftermarket ones.

Thanks.
Sebastian Grant
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nsw
soarer TT

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Thursday, June 09, 2011 - 11:32 pm, by:  Sebastian Grant (Saabg) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Jeff, no I haven't. I was waiting for someone who has already done that to part their car out wink wink. I should get on it but I'm starting to think that a 2j conversion would be the easiest way to reach my goals.

Daniel, if that's the case I already have a set of hks valve springs which I was going to use if I went to 264 cams. Do you think it's worth throwing them in?
James Wilson
DieHard
sa
TT

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Friday, June 10, 2011 - 08:47 am, by:  James Wilson (Ser493) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Boris Siljanoski wrote on Thursday, June 09, 2011 - 10:48 pm:

say if some of you guys wanted to do back to back tests on a Dyno with stock and ported or aftermarket ones




That's a big job, can't do that on two different soarer's got to be the same one - For a decent comparison.

Most of the RB series aftermarket dumps have a separated waste gate and there has been plenty of R&D put into those dump setups. It must have a positive affect in my opinion.
James Wilson
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sa
TT

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Friday, June 10, 2011 - 08:51 am, by:  James Wilson (Ser493) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Jeff Bedsor wrote on Wednesday, June 08, 2011 - 07:08 pm:

also I run mine down to about 10.5 AFR under high boost




wow that's rich....but safe none the less
Daniel Clarke
Goo Roo
NSW
TT 2.5L 6 cylinder

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Friday, June 10, 2011 - 06:37 pm, by:  Daniel Clarke (Dieseltrain) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Either that Sebastian or your gearbox is slipping .
Kurt Atzmuller
DieHard
Victoria
TT`s

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Monday, April 28, 2014 - 04:34 pm, by:  Kurt Atzmuller (Kurt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

So i came across this old thread today...
My introduction to soarer central!

And up to now i have made around 30 dumps with no fitment issues and around 30 set of intakes as well!
Ian Rigby
TryHard
NSW
'97 AE102, '95 JZZ30

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Monday, April 28, 2014 - 08:01 pm, by:  Ian Rigby (Hiro) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Kurt do you happen to do hot-side pipes to replace the standard side-mount pipe? I've got a full cold-side intake as well as dumps and the alloy elbow coming up into the throttle, but still the factory hot pipes and intercooler pipe running into the driver's guard (proper front mount installation :-)), and it looks a bit stodgy compared to the rest of the pipework. Same goes for the top radiator hose, would love an alloy version of that
Kurt Atzmuller
DieHard
Victoria
TT`s

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Monday, April 28, 2014 - 08:12 pm, by:  Kurt Atzmuller (Kurt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I do the hot pipes that replaces the alloy piece off the turbo's and joins up to the stock rubber dog leg that runs over to the guard.
I don't make a replacement part for that rubber piece though. Or the radiator pipe either sorry Ian.
Jeff Bedsor
Goo Roo
QLD
TT

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Friday, May 02, 2014 - 06:28 pm, by:  Jeff Bedsor (Jeff_bedsor) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Kurt Atzmuller wrote on Monday, April 28, 2014 - 04:34 pm:

So i came across this old thread today...
My introduction to soarer central!



Got to admit I gave you a bit of a hard time ..... but the quality of your dumps improved out of site. From what I can see of the work you are doing now they are pretty good quality wise, as I have said a few time over the last couple of year. I have no problem giving credit where it is due and you do deserve a good wrap. I'm sorry I never got the time to make some as well, the poor soarers been sitting in the shed for last 2 years, bugger.
Kurt Atzmuller
DieHard
Victoria
TT`s

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Friday, May 02, 2014 - 08:06 pm, by:  Kurt Atzmuller (Kurt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

All good Jeff.
I always knew i had something to offer the soarer community.
There was such a damaged mind set regarding dumps from bad experiences people have had over the years.
Hopefully that's a thing of the past for people buying dumps from me knowing they will fit straight up with no issues.

But geez sitting for 2 years? Why's that, just pushed for time these days?

Mine's been off the road for 6 months now with a melted number 5 cylinder and i'm antzy as hell to get it going again.
Going to be a while though.
Daniel Clarke
Goo Roo
NSW
TT 2.5L 6 cylinder

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Saturday, May 03, 2014 - 07:16 am, by:  Daniel Clarke (Dieseltrain) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Haha the fast ones are in hibernation ! Mines been sitting for a few months . Needs convertor seal replaced .

But having said that , good to see you stuck it out Kurt & are making some quality items .

I love the intakes and if I didn't already have dumps , yours would be in there :-)
Jeff Bedsor
Goo Roo
QLD
TT

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Saturday, May 03, 2014 - 06:55 pm, by:  Jeff Bedsor (Jeff_bedsor) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Kurt,with work and rebuilding our house(got sold a lemon full of whiteants)I just haven't had the time or motivation to get back on with it. Hopefully finish stripping the interior out and get it on E85 and do a couple of runs down the strip. I need a speed fix.
Blake Gloyn
Goo Roo
manawatu
soarer JZZ30 TT

Posts: 1150
Reg: 02-2006

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Saturday, May 03, 2014 - 07:16 pm, by:  Blake Gloyn (Blakenz) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

And no one strips an interior quite like Jeff does…
refer to the images in this thread…
http://soarercentral.com/sc-forum/messages/263854/299164.html?1309729018
Jeff Bedsor
Goo Roo
QLD
TT

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Sunday, May 04, 2014 - 05:55 pm, by:  Jeff Bedsor (Jeff_bedsor) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My God, that was June 2011, that's nearly 3 years and it's still not finished.

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