Wednesday, June 08, 2011 - 03:02 pm, by: Sebastian Grant(Saabg)
I've seen YouTube videos and build threads on two soarers you have tuned with t3gs and both of them put my efforts to shame. My power level dropped off 40rwkw from 5600rpm to 6600rpm which is why my tuner believed my dumps needed work. Please, please, please Cihan can you come to Sydney and tune my car???
Wednesday, June 08, 2011 - 03:06 pm, by: Sebastian Grant(Saabg)
Also Jeff, I think you might be forgetting that very few people have your welding skills or tools. You should give it a nudge and then sell them if you have the time. Most people are in the same boat as me, I can pull turbos, engines out etc but I'm not going anywhere near a welder.
Wednesday, June 08, 2011 - 07:08 pm, by: Jeff Bedsor(Jeff_bedsor)
Cihan Aday wrote on Wednesday, June 08, 2011 - 01:50 pm:
Sorry Jeff, i jumped in there. Wasn't directed at you mate.
Cihan, no worries, I didn't think it was. Always open to your opinions and knowledge. Sebastian, have you opened out the turbo inlet and out piping? It does make a real difference, also I run mine down to about 10.5 AFR under high boost, keeps it cool and makes heaps of power.
So Jeff are you saying this whole separating the flows to decrease turbulence with dumps that meet later on (like aftermarket ones), is actually not really the thing that brings more power? It's just the better flow of the pipes? I was always believing that separating the pipes a while "stabilizes" the flow, or is this really not the thing that makes the difference, but only sounds like it does in theory?
I do remember a while ago Cihan said good things about some dumps that this guy made forgot the name of the business Something works was the name, they looked the same shape as the stock ones and size too, and we all said they would not work because they were not "separated", I guess something like this would be easier to fab up
And as for separated wastegate pipe, would that also be a myth? Because I see lots of aftermarket dump pipes for lots of Turbo cars all with the separated design, and the reasons behind it people say is to decrease turbulence?
I remember having a look through my stock dumps, looks very restrictive, if I remember correctly there are quite a few squishes and dents in the pipes which would create flow restrictions, to me it looks like that would need heaps of porting?
Also another thing, could we also consider the power curve rather than the peak power benefits of better flowing dumps? say if some of you guys wanted to do back to back tests on a Dyno with stock and ported or aftermarket ones.
Thursday, June 09, 2011 - 11:32 pm, by: Sebastian Grant(Saabg)
Jeff, no I haven't. I was waiting for someone who has already done that to part their car out wink wink. I should get on it but I'm starting to think that a 2j conversion would be the easiest way to reach my goals.
Daniel, if that's the case I already have a set of hks valve springs which I was going to use if I went to 264 cams. Do you think it's worth throwing them in?
Friday, June 10, 2011 - 08:47 am, by: James Wilson(Ser493)
Boris Siljanoski wrote on Thursday, June 09, 2011 - 10:48 pm:
say if some of you guys wanted to do back to back tests on a Dyno with stock and ported or aftermarket ones
That's a big job, can't do that on two different soarer's got to be the same one - For a decent comparison.
Most of the RB series aftermarket dumps have a separated waste gate and there has been plenty of R&D put into those dump setups. It must have a positive affect in my opinion.
Monday, April 28, 2014 - 08:01 pm, by: Ian Rigby(Hiro)
Kurt do you happen to do hot-side pipes to replace the standard side-mount pipe? I've got a full cold-side intake as well as dumps and the alloy elbow coming up into the throttle, but still the factory hot pipes and intercooler pipe running into the driver's guard (proper front mount installation ), and it looks a bit stodgy compared to the rest of the pipework. Same goes for the top radiator hose, would love an alloy version of that
Monday, April 28, 2014 - 08:12 pm, by: Kurt Atzmuller(Kurt)
I do the hot pipes that replaces the alloy piece off the turbo's and joins up to the stock rubber dog leg that runs over to the guard. I don't make a replacement part for that rubber piece though. Or the radiator pipe either sorry Ian.
Friday, May 02, 2014 - 06:28 pm, by: Jeff Bedsor(Jeff_bedsor)
Kurt Atzmuller wrote on Monday, April 28, 2014 - 04:34 pm:
So i came across this old thread today... My introduction to soarer central!
Got to admit I gave you a bit of a hard time ..... but the quality of your dumps improved out of site. From what I can see of the work you are doing now they are pretty good quality wise, as I have said a few time over the last couple of year. I have no problem giving credit where it is due and you do deserve a good wrap. I'm sorry I never got the time to make some as well, the poor soarers been sitting in the shed for last 2 years, bugger.
Friday, May 02, 2014 - 08:06 pm, by: Kurt Atzmuller(Kurt)
All good Jeff. I always knew i had something to offer the soarer community. There was such a damaged mind set regarding dumps from bad experiences people have had over the years. Hopefully that's a thing of the past for people buying dumps from me knowing they will fit straight up with no issues.
But geez sitting for 2 years? Why's that, just pushed for time these days?
Mine's been off the road for 6 months now with a melted number 5 cylinder and i'm antzy as hell to get it going again. Going to be a while though.
Saturday, May 03, 2014 - 06:55 pm, by: Jeff Bedsor(Jeff_bedsor)
Kurt,with work and rebuilding our house(got sold a lemon full of whiteants)I just haven't had the time or motivation to get back on with it. Hopefully finish stripping the interior out and get it on E85 and do a couple of runs down the strip. I need a speed fix.