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Adrian McGuire
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soarer 2.5 turbo

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Tuesday, June 07, 2011 - 07:18 pm, by:  Adrian McGuire (Adro) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

so it looks like i have cracked the bottom tank on my Rad so im wondering wether this is the right opertunity to upgrade to a bling alloy one or stick with the stocky.
Jason Cheah
TryHard
QLD
MINE'S 2JZ-GTE JZZ31

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Tuesday, June 07, 2011 - 07:24 pm, by:  Jason Cheah (Freaky) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It really depends. If you have the budget why not upgrade, but if money is tight there is nothing wrong with a factory replacement.
Matt Newman
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QLD
soarer tt

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Tuesday, June 07, 2011 - 07:45 pm, by:  Matt Newman (Soarersrock) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

mind you it also depends how much mucking around you want to do to fit it i spent somewhere between 5-10 hours making brackets and cutting around the stock shroud to make it work.
Adrian McGuire
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Tuesday, June 07, 2011 - 07:56 pm, by:  Adrian McGuire (Adro) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

im looking at the PWR 55mm core at the moment as its a direct drop in for the stocky. i dont run the clutch fan and shroud as i have 2x "14inch thermos sucking the air through.
Jason Cheah
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QLD
MINE'S 2JZ-GTE JZZ31

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Tuesday, June 07, 2011 - 08:46 pm, by:  Jason Cheah (Freaky) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I can't complain about the pwr. I went for the stealth coating to maintain my stock look. Looks awesome.
Adrian McGuire
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Tuesday, June 07, 2011 - 08:49 pm, by:  Adrian McGuire (Adro) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Roughly hw much?
Jason Cheah
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MINE'S 2JZ-GTE JZZ31

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Tuesday, June 07, 2011 - 08:56 pm, by:  Jason Cheah (Freaky) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I think the standard one is 880. Mine is slightly custom as I wanted stealth coating and some custom mountings. So over a grand.
Jason Cheah
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Tuesday, June 07, 2011 - 08:59 pm, by:  Jason Cheah (Freaky) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Steven Anderson
DieHard
NSW
UZZ31 Manual

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Wednesday, June 08, 2011 - 03:01 pm, by:  Steven Anderson (Cusscuss) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

make sure you retain a proper fan and shroud if you do go aftermarket. Biggest cause of issues on non stock radiators.
Adrian McGuire
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Wednesday, June 08, 2011 - 03:10 pm, by:  Adrian McGuire (Adro) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i dont run the standard clutch fan as i didnt like how much room it took up. my current twin 14 inch thermo's are more than sufficiant but i will getting a custom scroud made from stainless for the twins anyway.
Jason Cheah
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Wednesday, June 08, 2011 - 05:49 pm, by:  Jason Cheah (Freaky) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Adrian, what's the concern about room I'm regards to? Is it to get to a certain component?
Adrian McGuire
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Wednesday, June 08, 2011 - 06:21 pm, by:  Adrian McGuire (Adro) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

na its more to show of my bling bits. i just dont like the look of the shroud and clutch fan
Jason Cheah
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Wednesday, June 08, 2011 - 06:35 pm, by:  Jason Cheah (Freaky) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Fair enough. I have the opposite preference. :-)
Daniel Clarke
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NSW
TT 2.5L 6 cylinder

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Thursday, June 09, 2011 - 09:25 pm, by:  Daniel Clarke (Dieseltrain) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Wow 880 for a radiator ? Thats insane !

Full replacement of stock unit shouldnt cost anymore than $350-$400 .

You can get yours cleaned and a new tank fitted for even cheaper than that .
Jason Cheah
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MINE'S 2JZ-GTE JZZ31

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Thursday, June 09, 2011 - 09:31 pm, by:  Jason Cheah (Freaky) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Why would I want to replace my clean and flushed working stock radiator with another stock one?
Daniel Clarke
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Friday, June 10, 2011 - 07:12 pm, by:  Daniel Clarke (Dieseltrain) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If you want to waste 1k to replace a working part with exactly the same working part ,Might wanna get your head checked to make sure there isnt an " I Owe You " note in there somewhere ???

I think you need to re-read exactly what you wrote and see how insane it is reading it from the other end yeah ?

If it is a show car , maybe i will forgive you .

But the stock unit has shown to work with cars doind regular circuit work and drag racing applications , making big power . SO it works really well :-)

Some guys however have had issues with " Bling " ones not flowing or working as efficiently .
Brett Harrison
DieHard
QLD
JZZ30

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Friday, June 10, 2011 - 09:29 pm, by:  Brett Harrison (Bretto) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I always find it funny how people assume aftermarket is better, but that's marketing for you.

Alloy is good for saving weight, and bling factor.

Brass/copper is superior in heat transfer, hence why it is OEM. Its cheaper, more durable, and easier and cheaper to repair/service.

Anyone tried cleaning the core on an alloy radiator ?
Jason Cheah
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Friday, June 10, 2011 - 10:37 pm, by:  Jason Cheah (Freaky) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Daniel, what exactly did I write that sounds insane?
I'm not sure about you guys but my new radiator dropped my temperature 8 degrees. I changed the stock radiator twice with no results to show for.
I also didn't say anything about going for bling.
Pretty fierce comments towards me with only the intention to reinforce the stock radiator is good? I know its good, but it was not working for me.
I never did say the stock radiator/clutch fan was bad, in fact I asked why the OP wanted to ditch the clutch fan.
Brett Harrison
DieHard
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JZZ30

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Saturday, June 11, 2011 - 08:40 am, by:  Brett Harrison (Bretto) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Jason, not directed at you. Just a general response to this thread.

Brett.
Jason Cheah
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MINE'S 2JZ-GTE JZZ31

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Saturday, June 11, 2011 - 09:46 am, by:  Jason Cheah (Freaky) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Cheers Brett, no harm done. I wasn't offended by anyone.

But I just wanted to let everyone know that the stock setup is indeed very robust and efficient.

However, with a stock JZZ31 radiator (I have no idea whether it has the same core or construction as a JZZ30) it was not up to the task of maintaining optimum temperature for the 2JZ-GTE. The 2JZ-GTE runs quite hot and my primary goal is to get it to run at around 95C.

I also understand a lot of people have got problems with aftermarket radiators, this however is attributed to;
- construction of the radiator (Quality Assurance)
- installation (proper installation to ensure no electrical grounding issues and most of all electrolysis)
- unsuitable coolant type
- etc

But I can confirm that a well-built radiator of good design and of course a thicker core makes a difference.

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