Friday, October 14, 2011 - 12:59 pm, by: James Tims(Timzy)
Jeff Bedsor wrote on Friday, October 14, 2011 - 12:34 pm:
Just think what you could do if you ran slicks, you could probably beat Kia's.
It's struggling at the moment but it'll get there, eventually I hope to take on the Mighty Kia's with all their power and might
In all honesty I think good tyres makes a massive difference, atm if I plant the foot down it just loses traction straight away and that's with Michelin PS2's...quarter mile not so sure how I'll go, I'll just stick to taking on Corolla's haha
Friday, October 14, 2011 - 02:39 pm, by: Jeff Bedsor(Jeff_bedsor)
My first run with the soarer unmodified I think I pulled a 14.45, put in the work and do the right mods and there's no reason why anyone can't get under 12 secs. One thing on the street tyre subject, the guys that prep the track hate street tyres as they tend to rip up the rubber that's been laid down by the slicks(soft tyres with minimal tread pattern). It's one reason why they wont let street cars do a burnout through the start line at most strips.
Friday, October 14, 2011 - 02:58 pm, by: Sebastian Grant(Saabg)
I doubt my car would be much quicker with slicks anyway. the night I went the track was prepared really well and I didn't get much wheel spin at all. Theres been plenty of cars running street tyres at every meet I've attended, probably more than slicks. It is a street meet after all.
Friday, October 14, 2011 - 08:06 pm, by: Daniel Clarke(Dieseltrain)
Sebastian I wasnt aiming at Anyone or Any cars ...
As for your reply with my quotes , Whats wrong with having rpm and boost as response ? Sorry if i like having a daily driven car that has bugger all lag , compared to most who complain about it .
A Prepped track is nothing like a street anyway , so all that street tyred street trim stuff is useless anyway . When comparing Road surfaces vs Track surfaces .
Ive seen cars run faster @ the strip than quoted by magazines due to the extra traction from a prepped surface .
I dont hold it against people for racing @ the drags with whatever tyre they choose . I DO wonder why people spend so much $$$ on mods but complain about lack of traction when pushing decent power . As a small amount of $$$ can = Potential reached
Edit :- just read all the thtread , couldnt read it all due to IE errors .
Friday, October 14, 2011 - 09:52 pm, by: Sebastian Grant(Saabg)
Pretty sure the times claimed by magazines on production cars were tested on drag strips. I highly doubt they would test the cars on the street with a g-tech.
I'm pretty sure that most drag racing in Japan is done on street legal tread isn't it. I know they are pretty much street legal semi slicks but still. Are you saying they are all wasting their time?
As for not racing on the street I call bull No one needs 200+rwkw on tap when putting around town. And I've driven plenty of cars with high rate torque converters on street tyres and it really didn't make them any faster off the line. All it really did was induce wheel spin. It did decrease fuel economy and increase exhaust noise though. It is cool having boost on tap but in a daily driver I prefer being able to put around off boost myself.
Saturday, October 15, 2011 - 07:30 am, by: Daniel Clarke(Dieseltrain)
May as well drive a Non Turbo car though ?
Times are tested @ tracks but with Zero preperation . Cold track with no traction compounds and no rubber laid down . Hence why people seem to be taking their new XR6 turbo's , HSV's , ALfa's , BMW;s to the track and being happy they are quicker than claimed .
As for Japan , i dont follow racing over there at all . I follow whats happening in the US .
I cant comment on the cars youve driven . My car is super responsive , has better fuel economy , and has always been loud , so no change there .
Obviously owning a turbo car you must understand that even with a VERY responsive setup like mine , doesnt mean your driving around on boost all the time ? In fact it uses less boost with the convertor driving around and is more responsive due to being able to use more revs .
I used to race my car alot ! ANd i think the 250+ 1/4 mile passes prove that, But due to having a family , working alot , and a mortgage i dont get to race anymore . So i enjoy my car still as a daily driver . I can always take it to the track someday and still have some fun and run whatever it can .
Anyway , this isnt about me or my car , but a question was asked and i offered my opinion and now seem to be shot at , which is why i am over forums lately .Not sure why your singling me out and my car though ?
Saturday, October 15, 2011 - 08:00 am, by: Sebastian Grant(Saabg)
Have another look through the thread Daniel and you'll see that you singled yourself out when I made a general comment. And you're really splitting hairs with the production car comparison but anyway.
Llayton. What have you decided on so far? If you look at daniels profile you'll find the cheapest route to get there. The only other thing I should have mentioned is you'll need to have a talk to your local tuners to find out what ecus they are happy to work with. There's no point buying an ecu then not have anyone to tune it.
Saturday, October 15, 2011 - 08:20 am, by: Layton Barker(Nos_soarertt)
In bendigo there is no one but one mechanic has a dyno I can use so ill be adjusting the fcd and safc to make sure my afr is all good and my exhaust temp is not to hi, hopefully it can run 18psi and not be lean
Saturday, October 15, 2011 - 02:14 pm, by: David Ward(Djwtoyota)
Surely people can make an honest opinion on here and share their experiences without comments being taken personally and/or people making personal attacks on opinions. Aren't we in it for the fun and to share knowledge for the good of all enthusiasts...come on fellers lighten up a little.
Thursday, October 27, 2011 - 09:45 pm, by: Ross Pesina(Ross79)
Layton, just get a wideband and do your own tuning. I'm using the AEM wideband (mentioned earlier in this thread) and find it great for diy tuning. I'm in castlemaine PM me if you want to drop by for a chat.
All you need then is to get an exhaust shop to weld a bung into your exhaust so you can install the o2 sensor that comes with the kit. Make sure you get them to weld it in before the cat.
Then it's a matter of hooking up a couple wires and you're on your way.
I've been doing my own tuning for about 10years. Provided you use a decent wideband like the one mentioned and keep the a/f ratios within reason, your engine should survive. I have taken my cars to tuners in the past (on dyno) and ended up doing a better job myself.
The only tuner I have had good experience with is Cihan. Did a fantastic job and didn't rip me off.
Saturday, October 29, 2011 - 06:53 am, by: Sebastian Grant(Saabg)
Brett, get in contact with costa, he'll sort you out.
Ross, why don't you go back to cihan?
Even IF you have the ability to get it to make power and get it to cold start well ( a real balancing act with an emanage) you have to do a lot of runs at wot. Where do you plan on doing that without the popo catching you or you endangering others lives?