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Tony Nguyen
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Tuesday, May 15, 2012 - 05:09 pm, by:  Tony Nguyen (Blade4546) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi guys,

Looking to start up a project on the t3g's and recently purchased a kit.
Goal is 350rwkw to 370rwkw+ with nice response on E85 + 1.5JZ.

Planning to purchase 2x GT2860RS CHRA and machine Comp/Exh housings to suit.

I've got a couple of concerns and couldn't find much info. Hope someone here can shed some light.

T3g exhaust housings are .49AR - Are there any known upgrade options? eg .64 gt2871r ex housing
It has a 5 bolt flange to dumps and a t25 flange. Unsure if a garrett turbo housing will line up with the back to back turbo setup.

Actuator spring - Any idea what the stock spring pressure is? Upgrade options?

Manifold + Dump pipe flow - Any information on flow capabilities?

Cooler pipe + intake pipe - Worth High flowing? Or completely replace them?

Hoping to get this setup up and running soon!
If anyone can point me in the right direction for great turbo rebuild services will be much appreciated.
Open to any suggestions to other turbo cores I should consider.
Ali Saeed
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Tuesday, May 15, 2012 - 05:48 pm, by:  Ali Saeed (Ali) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Single turbo?
Tony Nguyen
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Victoria
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Tuesday, May 15, 2012 - 06:08 pm, by:  Tony Nguyen (Blade4546) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Not the answer I was looking for.
Dan McColl
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Tuesday, May 15, 2012 - 06:16 pm, by:  Dan McColl (Hoon) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Why not just run 2x GT2860's or GT2871's instead of screwing around with hybrid things.

Also, a well sized single will be just as responsive, make the same power and cost half as much.
Tony Nguyen
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Tuesday, May 15, 2012 - 06:18 pm, by:  Tony Nguyen (Blade4546) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'd prefer a stock looking setup and already purchased the kit.
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Tuesday, May 15, 2012 - 06:20 pm, by:  Ali Saeed (Ali) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Tony: I think rebuilding a might be a little bit expensive, specially for two turbos, youre probably looking at 3.5k+?

Like Dan said, decent sized single would be just as responsive and probably have a slight power advantage too
Tony Nguyen
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Tuesday, May 15, 2012 - 06:25 pm, by:  Tony Nguyen (Blade4546) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Rebuilding cost under 2k.
1550 for both gt28RS cores. 80 per housing to machine.

Done my research and is within budget.
Just want to find out if anyone has a similar setup and would like to share results.
Kurt Atzmuller
TryHard
Victoria
TT`s

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Tuesday, May 15, 2012 - 06:25 pm, by:  Kurt Atzmuller (Kurt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Tony, A set of Kurt's intake's, hot pipes and a custom dump if needed. Should do the trick! Let me know if you need a hand with that!
Tony Nguyen
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Tuesday, May 15, 2012 - 06:32 pm, by:  Tony Nguyen (Blade4546) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeah Kurt, Was definitely considering your Cooler/Intake pipes. Could you pm me a quote so I know what I'm up for.
Do you do the intake pipe into a stock airbox as well? Or even cut the floor part to have it routed to where the stock side mount goes. (Saw one of your pics)
Kurt Atzmuller
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Tuesday, May 15, 2012 - 07:06 pm, by:  Kurt Atzmuller (Kurt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yes can do that. I can do the airbox i have one here i can use and it's probably the easiest route to take rather than go chopping into it.

Also on the actuator concerns you have, have you seen the brand Kinagawa on ebay they make a actuator with interchangable springs. I fitted a pair of these on a pair of high flowed ct-12's last week. I really like them and going to get a pair for myself.

I'll have a think about it all and E-mail you tomorrow.
Tony Nguyen
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Tuesday, May 15, 2012 - 07:13 pm, by:  Tony Nguyen (Blade4546) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

No problems!
Yeah, coincidentally I had my eye on them. Good to hear they're compatible. Will look into it.
Kurt Atzmuller
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Tuesday, May 15, 2012 - 07:18 pm, by:  Kurt Atzmuller (Kurt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeah it took a couple of hours to fit them but they go on ok.
Sebastian Grant
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Tuesday, May 15, 2012 - 07:51 pm, by:  Sebastian Grant (Saabg) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

glen munro racing. Just send them to him and he will tell you what can be done to them and how much power you can make. I'll be getting him to do mine one day.
Kurt Atzmuller
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Wednesday, May 16, 2012 - 07:08 pm, by:  Kurt Atzmuller (Kurt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I sent you a pm today Tony.
Sebastian Grant
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Saturday, August 04, 2012 - 06:20 am, by:  Sebastian Grant (Saabg) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well my t3gs are at Glenn Munro racing now. Looks like I'm going gt2871 cores. Any updates on yours tony?
Daniel Clarke
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Saturday, August 04, 2012 - 08:41 am, by:  Daniel Clarke (Dieseltrain) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Wow that's big .
Sebastian Grant
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Saturday, August 04, 2012 - 10:50 am, by:  Sebastian Grant (Saabg) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeah, hopefully I can go 2860 but we'll have to wait and see. The muppets at gcg sand blasted my housings so they have to be high flowed. Hopefully I can still get away with the smaller compressor wheel. The standard turbos already surge as it is so I really don't want to go with the bigger compressor wheel but what can you do.
Glenn Munro
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Saturday, August 04, 2012 - 02:19 pm, by:  Glenn Munro (Gmhigh_flow) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If your stock turbo's surge already you will have an issue with the hks ones. I can fit the gt2860 but i mentioned a gt2871 because i thought you wanted a high flow. The hks are already about a gt2860 size.
For some reason lately there has been a rash of leaking turbo's showing up that have been freshly reco'ed and i am finding the seal area getting sand blasted from the reconditioning leaving horrible pitting. I don't know why all of a sudden but it shows a poor quality control in turbo shops lately. Something we should be aware of when getting turbo's rebuilt.
Sebastian Grant
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Sunday, August 05, 2012 - 09:04 pm, by:  Sebastian Grant (Saabg) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Nice one. Cheers glen. Great to see you on this forum. I'll definitely go with the gt2860. I'm looking for no more than 330rwkw and keep it as responsive as possible.
Walter Gillmore
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Sunday, August 05, 2012 - 09:15 pm, by:  Walter Gillmore (Cl33pa) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Welcome Glenn!

great person to deal with and only too happy to answer all my noobish questions from when i was looking to go ball bearing cartridges. would have been nice but suppliers for ceramic thrust bearings to suit the ct12a shaft sizes were non existent. :-(

got another n00b question for ya Glenn,
can you get away with drilling/ machining 'anti-surge' type holes around a high flowed ct12a comp housing? say the gt2871 cores.
Daniel Clarke
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Sunday, August 05, 2012 - 09:52 pm, by:  Daniel Clarke (Dieseltrain) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You won't fit 2871 in ct12a housings the too small from my research .

I know over the years , garret bb 2560 and 2860 have been fitted into ct12a housings .
Glenn Munro
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Sunday, August 05, 2012 - 10:17 pm, by:  Glenn Munro (Gmhigh_flow) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You can drill the antisurge slots in the housings but it is a rather big job as in time consuming.

Gt2871 are huge for the 1JZ.

The gt2871 we are talking about is going into a hks t3g turbine housings which are basicly a t25 turbine housing which get modified. I think hypergear fit them to the ct12a ,can be done with mods.
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Sunday, August 05, 2012 - 10:27 pm, by:  Walter Gillmore (Cl33pa) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

cheers Glenn :-) is there a surge problem when using the gt2860 cores in ct12a housings?

i missed out on a pair of apexi ball bearing RHX6 with p16r (.63) exhaust housings. on ebay. both went for $500 each! hard to find any info on them, but what i did find spoke volumes about their awesomeness :-) as used in F1 cars, the IHI RX6 turbo. 1000hp twins gtr uses these with a p20 housing (.79?)

another question Glenn. are the T25's cast steel exhaust housing or cast iron?

ninja Edit: just found out they are high nickel content cast iron :-( nickel rods for welding it is! pre heating and crap load of peening every half inch of weld.
Glenn Munro
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Monday, August 06, 2012 - 10:21 am, by:  Glenn Munro (Gmhigh_flow) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

A few guys have had problems with surge and most don't. I think it's a setup problem.
Tony Nguyen
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Tuesday, August 21, 2012 - 11:22 pm, by:  Tony Nguyen (Blade4546) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I dropped mine off to procharge in VIC.
He is currently having issues re profiling the .49 rear housing to suit the gt2860RS cores and recommends I upgrade the rear housing.
Not looking good at the moment as the only available rear housing is 500 a pop from UK.
Sebastian Grant
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See how mine go with Glenn before you take the plunge.
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Wednesday, August 22, 2012 - 02:17 pm, by:  Glenn Munro (Gmhigh_flow) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The t3g are similar to the garret t25 and are 42.3mm exducer while the GT2860 are 46.9mm. They won't be a problem with the profile but are a problem with the clamp recess. They go from the normal t25 4 bolt size out to the t04 size 6 bolt. Just needs a bit of welding and tapping new threaded holes.
Have done quite a few of the t25-gt28 housings.
Sebastian Grant
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Monday, September 10, 2012 - 02:59 pm, by:  Sebastian Grant (Saabg) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Any updates with my turbos Glenn?

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