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James Tims
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Tuesday, September 18, 2012 - 09:45 pm, by:  James Tims (Timzy) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Okay guys,
Knowing that I can get it engineered the idea has hit me again. Would the GT3582R be a decent enough single on the 1jz with 440 injectors, upgraded fuel pump, Emanage ultimate and obviously with my current exhaust system, fmic etc would I be able to push 300 - 310 rwkw's (with current transmission)? Thinking of going single more for future proofing as later on down the track I'll either rebuilt the auto currently with the 1.5 shift kit and trans cooler or just get an r154 manual.

What do you guys think, I'm no expert on turbos but single seems to be the way to go personally.

Any advice is appreciated :-)
Blake Gloyn
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Wednesday, September 19, 2012 - 03:05 am, by:  Blake Gloyn (Blakenz) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

the GT35 is laggy with the auto, and fine with the manual trans, depending on how you drive.
Unless you are definitely going with the manual conversion, i strongly suggest going down one size with your turbo choice.
GT3076, gt3576,gt3082(gt3040). all with .8 rear housing. they will give that power you want, but have response much closer to the factor twins.
James Tims
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Wednesday, September 19, 2012 - 05:24 am, by:  James Tims (Timzy) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Out of the 3 which one of those would be the best out of what you've mentioned? I don't mind a little lag, I guess it comes with single and more power!
Kurt Atzmuller
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Wednesday, September 19, 2012 - 06:17 am, by:  Kurt Atzmuller (Kurt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I had a gt35 with an auto, it was a little laggy until i had my wolf v500 installed which controls all gearbox shift point's! When they set all the gear shift setting's they speed up kickdown massively and made a huge difference to the feel of the car, there wasn't much throttle to play with before it was reaching for another gear keeping on boost much better. Would recommend the wolf for such setup's but it was very pricey!
James Tims
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Wednesday, September 19, 2012 - 07:37 am, by:  James Tims (Timzy) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeah maybe a little too pricey especially for what I'm wanting to achieve...but amazing ecu heard so much about them. Maybe a haltech ps 2000 someday but for now a good sized single turbo capable of up to 350 rwkw for future purposes but 300-310rwkw for now that will go down well with the emanage ultimate and 440 injectors plus fuel pump etc
Kurt Atzmuller
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Wednesday, September 19, 2012 - 08:08 am, by:  Kurt Atzmuller (Kurt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yes a good ecu is worth there weight in gold. Maybe one of those supra stick's I'm not to sure what they do, but if they could speed up kickdown it might help. But i didn't really mind the lag it had because you know what was about to come!
Tony Nguyen
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Wednesday, September 19, 2012 - 09:28 am, by:  Tony Nguyen (Blade4546) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Where you getting it engineered? Hook me up ;)
Sebastian Grant
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Wednesday, September 19, 2012 - 09:36 am, by:  Sebastian Grant (Saabg) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I would rather have a big single with an auto and a stall converter than a manual. You can't load up a manual off the line as well as an auto that's for sure.
James Tims
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Wednesday, September 19, 2012 - 09:38 am, by:  James Tims (Timzy) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeah I can be a little forgiving and sacrifice fast spool for more power especially when you know what's coming :-) my stock ceramics are starting to sound more and more like police sirens each day, want them gone ASAP
Johnny Brasche
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Wednesday, September 19, 2012 - 05:51 pm, by:  Johnny Brasche (Johnnyb) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hey Kurt did you make that dump pipe for that gt35?
James Tims
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Wednesday, September 19, 2012 - 05:53 pm, by:  James Tims (Timzy) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Good question Johnny. So anyone else got any experience with a good turbo that would suit my needs, when does the GT3582R actually kick in with the rev range of the soarer???
James Tims
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Wednesday, September 19, 2012 - 06:31 pm, by:  James Tims (Timzy) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Or a GT3540
Daniel Clarke
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Wednesday, September 19, 2012 - 07:16 pm, by:  Daniel Clarke (Dieseltrain) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Just remember you will kill the box at those levels .

Some say they can live with lag ... It's made easier with a good stally .
Kurt Atzmuller
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Wednesday, September 19, 2012 - 07:20 pm, by:  Kurt Atzmuller (Kurt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yes i did make it Johnny and yes if your after one i can do it for you. I would need the turbo and manifold to put on my jig though, but it would be a perfect fit.
James Tims
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Wednesday, September 19, 2012 - 08:05 pm, by:  James Tims (Timzy) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

What's the max levels that the box can take?? 280rwkw?
Van Trinh
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Wednesday, September 19, 2012 - 08:48 pm, by:  Van Trinh  (Dacbietsoarer) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Since we are on the topic, what about a gt3071r? Can anyone comment how this turbo compares to the others mentioned above with the auto?
Daniel Clarke
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Wednesday, September 19, 2012 - 08:53 pm, by:  Daniel Clarke (Dieseltrain) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

3071 is said to be small and would max out at 250rwkw going off comp maps ...

However I would love to see one fitted and max boosted !
Johnny Brasche
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Wednesday, September 19, 2012 - 08:56 pm, by:  Johnny Brasche (Johnnyb) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks Kurt think i will have a stab at it my self got the gear to do it just me being lazy lol

Will be running low boost on it until i get one made up from MV auto

280kw should be possible with trans cooler and a shift kit
Van Trinh
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Wednesday, September 19, 2012 - 11:08 pm, by:  Van Trinh  (Dacbietsoarer) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm actually seriously thinking about going down the gt3071 single with auto tranny in a couple weeks so ill report back my findings when done.

Ill add as well, ive done the gt3582r single on the std auto tranny and its laggy.
Daniel Clarke
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Thursday, September 20, 2012 - 06:07 am, by:  Daniel Clarke (Dieseltrain) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I personally think the 71 might make up to 260rwkw , good luck
James Tims
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Thursday, September 20, 2012 - 06:09 am, by:  James Tims (Timzy) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

High flow steel wheel twins haha
Van Trinh
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Thursday, September 20, 2012 - 09:51 am, by:  Van Trinh  (Dacbietsoarer) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

High flow twins would work but I've already got the single setup. Biggest problem I have is lag, I really enjoyed driving the car as a daily when I had the twins but now it's just too much of a beast lol. I just want low end response and torque not chasing big hp.
James Tims
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Thursday, September 20, 2012 - 10:28 am, by:  James Tims (Timzy) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Realistically what's the likelihood of pushing close to 300 on the high flow twins from Munroe with my mods I mentioned?? Also got dump pipes etc
Kurt Atzmuller
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Thursday, September 20, 2012 - 11:41 am, by:  Kurt Atzmuller (Kurt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

should be able to get to 300 no worries with high flowed twins! Evan in Nz has 286 on 18 pound with standard turbos and stage 2 cam's. Imagine what a pair of high flowed twin's at 22-24 pound would achieve. Would be Bugger all lag too and look stock as well.
Daniel Clarke
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Thursday, September 20, 2012 - 04:15 pm, by:  Daniel Clarke (Dieseltrain) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

They are laggier . A 3071with .8 rear would be a very responsive steetable setup IMO . I mean , 250rwkw is a decent street figure , but that response and torque would be nice .

Personally I always wanted to bolt on a 3071 and see its limits ... Keen as to follow them .

In the end , if it's not enough , upgrade to a 3076r or 3037s .
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Thursday, September 20, 2012 - 04:42 pm, by:  Johnny Brasche (Johnnyb) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeh the 3071 would be great for the set of lights if thats your thing who could resist the temptation not to tho lol

Just in case someone is interested

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Garrett-Turbo-GTX-3076-/190725964333?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=ite m2c6827422d
Ali Saeed
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Friday, September 21, 2012 - 11:32 am, by:  Ali Saeed (Ali) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I dont think there would be a significant difference in power delivery between a 71 and 76. might as well go GTX3576 if you can find one, as it will have VERY similar response to gt3076 and will make a lot more power up top.

Daniel, isnt 3037s just a rebranded 3082r?
Daniel Clarke
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Friday, September 21, 2012 - 04:20 pm, by:  Daniel Clarke (Dieseltrain) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Kinda ... Horses for courses .. I wonder if a 3071 would push 22-25psi through a 1jz and make over 350rwhp .

Would be very responsive and have boost early allowing to run a smaller stally .

Although I love my stally . Stock twins and over 4000rpm is kinda killer every day ! Not to mention how easy it will 60' at the track with no effort really .

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