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Samuel Gaete
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Alberta
Soarer TT

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Thursday, March 14, 2013 - 06:42 pm, by:  Samuel Gaete (Silverrush) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

So i parked the car outside over winter with a car cover on it, temperatures drop to about -35 in the city, but before parking it the car was running just fine and such, now that spring is coming i wanted to take it for a run around the neighbourhood and it wont start. i did have fuel in it, almost half a tank, and i forgot to put gasoline antifreeze and fuel stabilizer in the tank before parking it. so i am leaning towards frozen fuel lines, or something to do with the old fuel in the tank? when i turn the key to crank it sounds like its trying to start but its not actually getting a solid start, even if i put my foot on the gas pedal and give it a little bit of gas as i try to start it. Any help would be much appreciated! Also i tried to look for the Engine ECU but cant seem to locate it, can someone point me in the right direction? please and thank you guys
James Tims
DieHard
Vic
TT

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Thursday, March 14, 2013 - 07:56 pm, by:  James Tims (Timzy) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi mate,
If your in Alberta I'm guessing that's somewhere in the states. Firstly this soarer site is predominantly for the australian soarer scene but I'll try my best to help. We don't get temps like that down here so most of us have never encountered anything like that before.

The ecu for your soarer would be located under the passenger side footwell I think, so just pull back the carpet, you should see a black cover, unbolt that with a 13mm and then the other bolt and after you lift that up you should see your ECU.

Personally sounds like 1 of 2 things, either your spark plugs are gone and they will need to be replaced or your fuel lines are frozen. I'm leaning more towards fuel lines but you say -35 in the city is that degrees celcius???

If it's actually ice cold over there then chances are your fuel lines are frozen, sounds like your car is cranking but it's not getting the fuel it needs to actually start, try thawing them out or something even when the weather is better and don't forget to put anti freeze and fuel stabilizer in the tank before parking it next time. That's my 2 cents worth anyway, hope you solve your problem :-)
Nathan Sheehan
TryHard
Victoria
Soarer TT Manual

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Thursday, March 14, 2013 - 08:36 pm, by:  Nathan Sheehan (Soarermad1) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

fuel, clogged your injectors probably. Throw in heaps of injector cleaner. Take the return line off the fuel pressure regulator on the fuel rail and crank the car over to see if fuel is passing through the rail, if not it's frozen lines.
Samuel Gaete
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Alberta
Soarer TT

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Thursday, March 14, 2013 - 09:32 pm, by:  Samuel Gaete (Silverrush) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks guy, I forgot to mention I had the car parked for over 6 months with the gas tank almost half full, and actually I live up in Canada, Alberta. We get some cold winters here, is there anyway of being able to inspect the ECU? To tell if it's damaged or not working properly?
Samuel Gaete
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Alberta
Soarer TT

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Thursday, March 14, 2013 - 09:36 pm, by:  Samuel Gaete (Silverrush) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Is there any picture reference to which line I should take off? I'm sort of a beginner with the engine area
Spencer Cameron
TryHard
NSW
JZZ30

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Friday, March 15, 2013 - 11:18 am, by:  Spencer Cameron (Switchio) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/noctiluca/Soarer/EXtoyota4/localf~1/download/extoyo~1/wwwelc~1.ru/toyot a/fulli~88.htm

The fuel return line is part 23280B on the above diagram, its just to the left of the throttle body as you look at the car from the front. When you pull it off and turn the car over it should gush all over the place.
Dave Rose
Goo Roo
wa
UZZ31 / ML320 CDI

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Friday, March 15, 2013 - 11:30 am, by:  Dave Rose (Sand_groper) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

6 months old petrol ,would struggle to start the car.I would change it first.
Samuel Gaete
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Alberta
Soarer TT

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Friday, March 15, 2013 - 12:48 pm, by:  Samuel Gaete (Silverrush) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks a lot! Really appreciate the input guys, I'll give it a shot once it stops snowing here, I was thinking about syphoning out the old petrol, I guess I would have to go through the fuel pump outlet right?
Matthew Sharpe
Goo Roo
North Island
JZZ31

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Friday, March 15, 2013 - 01:33 pm, by:  Matthew Sharpe (Madmatt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeah, as Dave says - if your fuel is anything like what we get down here, it's full of unstable additives that cause the fuel to go stale after a few months... I've even had issues after 3 or 4 weeks with my lawn mower from time to time that have been fixed by flushing out with new fuel.
Shane Haverkamp
DieHard
nsw
soarer TT

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Friday, March 15, 2013 - 07:36 pm, by:  Shane Haverkamp (Havabeer) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

can you try the fuel bypass trick (search for it or its in the how to section)

either that or just dump the tank, you can drain it by undoing the line going TO the fuel filter.

maybe even consider throwing it in diagnostic mode also in the how to section) and see if any codes are being thrown

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