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Ezekiel Vozzo
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Soarer Twin Turbo

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Wednesday, April 17, 2013 - 03:50 pm, by:  Ezekiel Vozzo (Ekez) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hey guys,

Is it me or are the turbo manifold bolts impossible to crack!

I have been following Jakes turbo removal guide as i am putting the R154 in and converting to single at the same time.

I just cant get those bolts off and cant get an impact gun in there!

Does anyone have Supermans number so i can get him around? Or possibly any ideas?

Thanks.
Robbie Rashleigh
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Nsw
Soarer TT

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Wednesday, April 17, 2013 - 08:40 pm, by:  Robbie Rashleigh (2annoy) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Spray them with some sort of penetrating fluid,make sure your using decent tools, and have a few more weetbix in the morning
Matt Newman
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QLD
soarer tt

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Wednesday, April 17, 2013 - 09:53 pm, by:  Matt Newman (Soarersrock) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

lol yeah crc them then you could try a crows foot puller and breaker bar but from memory last lime i did it i used the 2 spanners trick with a tap from the hammer to break them.
Boris Siljanoski
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Wednesday, April 17, 2013 - 10:38 pm, by:  Boris Siljanoski (Z2tt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hit them with a hammer to help loosen the corrosion but make sure you do not destroy the nuts otherwise you will not be able to get grip, do it while the socket is mounted on the nut.

Use quality good fitting sockets only and whatever you do, keep the angle correct otherwise once you slip once you will never get the same amount of grip on when you damage the head of the nut.

I also spray propane around the nuts to freeze them I have found sometimes this helps too.

find a way of getting more leverage on your tool, if you use Spanners, double them up but if you have not done this before careful as you can slip if you do not do it correctly.

If you are using a socket mounted on a breaker bar, see if you can find a steel pipe to slip over it to gave you more leverage.

You can also use a hammer or heavy weight to put instant force onto your tool but again be careful, the best way is just to get a tool on with a method of increasing leverage.

Be careful not to let your tools slip, the amount of hassle once this happens is simply not worth it and can be avoided if you take things easily.
Ezekiel Vozzo
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Soarer Twin Turbo

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Thursday, April 18, 2013 - 10:08 am, by:  Ezekiel Vozzo (Ekez) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yea i have been spraying the nuts every night, i have cracked the top 3 on the rear turbo manifold, and the top 2 on the front turbo.

Although i cant for the life of me get access to bottom bolts.

I thought to myself 'ill just take off the dump pipe' and then realised, double sided bolts.

What a saga this has turned out to be!

Although i did get the Auto out last night so a bit of a win!
Boris Siljanoski
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Thursday, April 18, 2013 - 08:28 pm, by:  Boris Siljanoski (Z2tt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You can get to all the turbo manifold bolts with the correct sized extenders and getting from the right areas, be extremely careful with the bottom ones.
Ezekiel Vozzo
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Friday, April 19, 2013 - 08:49 am, by:  Ezekiel Vozzo (Ekez) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks guys, i have some backup coming around tonight. Should be able to get the manual and single turbo in.

I must be missing something, as i cant get the dump pipe off without taking the turbos out, and cant get to the rear turbo bolts because the dump pipes are in.
Robbie Rashleigh
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Nsw
Soarer TT

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Friday, April 19, 2013 - 09:43 am, by:  Robbie Rashleigh (2annoy) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

That's correct. It is a pain in the arse. Turbos , dump pipe come off in one go . Just have to get creative
Ezekiel Vozzo
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Soarer Twin Turbo

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Friday, April 19, 2013 - 09:59 am, by:  Ezekiel Vozzo (Ekez) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Haha, i did see one thread were someone had angle grinded the dumps off. I think they take the cake!
Robbie Rashleigh
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Nsw
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Friday, April 19, 2013 - 10:12 am, by:  Robbie Rashleigh (2annoy) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeah, frankly , I would do it lol
Ezekiel Vozzo
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Saturday, April 20, 2013 - 07:43 pm, by:  Ezekiel Vozzo (Ekez) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

So i realised today when i was trying to remove the auto that their are 3 bolts that appear can disconnect more of the dump and hopefully make it easier to get a spanner in.

Ill give it a try tomorrow and see how i go. I also recommend a good set of mechanic gloves as i have already smashed my knuckles so many times!
Robbie Rashleigh
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Nsw
Soarer TT

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Sunday, April 21, 2013 - 05:13 pm, by:  Robbie Rashleigh (2annoy) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

In all honesty. i would be pulling the motor and gearbox out in one go, removing the twins, fitting single, fitting manual and installing. much simplier then what you are trying to do in the car.
Ezekiel Vozzo
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Soarer Twin Turbo

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Saturday, April 27, 2013 - 06:39 pm, by:  Ezekiel Vozzo (Ekez) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yea i wish it were possible Robbie, but unfortunately i don't have access to the tools, shed, and funds. If i did, absolutely pull the engine and gearbox out.

Although on another note, i removed the turbos today, i found it easier to separate both turbos from the manifolds. This worked for me by tackling the rear turbo from underneath the car. The best thing about dong it this way was pull and use weight to crack the bolts.

I took a picture to show what is accessible.


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Robbie Rashleigh
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Soarer TT

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Saturday, April 27, 2013 - 07:37 pm, by:  Robbie Rashleigh (2annoy) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I found taking 1 manifold off and leaving another one on helped make it easier, but yes frequent trips down laying on the ground trying to get the nuts from underneath is a pain.
Ezekiel Vozzo
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Saturday, April 27, 2013 - 09:20 pm, by:  Ezekiel Vozzo (Ekez) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Absolutely, im just happy that saga is over. Got the twins off, and single kit on today. R154 is all in, just waiting for a crossmember to be made up.
Kurt Atzmuller
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TT`s

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Sunday, April 28, 2013 - 08:30 am, by:  Kurt Atzmuller (Kurt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Its all just practise and cracking those nuts! Once that's done its much easier, my last dump change took 2 hours
Ray Austin
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Soarer GT-TL

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Wednesday, May 22, 2013 - 01:42 pm, by:  Ray Austin (Rayala) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I just used a spanner, no dramas at all
Ezekiel Vozzo
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Wednesday, May 22, 2013 - 02:19 pm, by:  Ezekiel Vozzo (Ekez) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yea my spanner worked in the end. I found trying to push down from in the engine bay didn't work at all. If you have trouble pull down from underneath the car.

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