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Peter Keen
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NSW
TT

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Saturday, January 28, 2006 - 12:12 pm, by:  Peter Keen (Slaughter) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeah i started my girl up today and noticed that the idle was "unstable" then i keep driving and notice that when i try to boost all it wants to do is miss and cough and fart! any ideas what could be doing this to me?
Simon Triantafillou
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NSW
Soarer Turbo

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Saturday, January 28, 2006 - 01:40 pm, by:  Simon Triantafillou (Soarer) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Try checking the coil pack plugs, or even replace the spark plugs.
Chris Davey
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Corona

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Saturday, January 28, 2006 - 02:11 pm, by:  Chris Davey (Chris_davey) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

is it rich on idle? If so, check the line to map sensor on firewall.

Otherwise, do as simon said. Check for codes also.
Peter Keen
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NSW
TT

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Saturday, January 28, 2006 - 11:29 pm, by:  Peter Keen (Slaughter) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

yeah it isnt rich on idle! the safc says "PRS -99" if that helps!
but ill try and check where the map sensor is anyone got a photo to help me locate it>?
it missing really bad even on idle! i think it may be the tune onthe safc! so can someone tell me if this will help
i cut the power to the safc by cutting the power wire then simply itll run as rich as possible (from the standard ecu with 440cc) then i can see if its the tune or if the safc is playing up? but will i also loose the stored tuning points if i cut the power?
are the coil packs prone to failing?
plugs where changed when the single turbo went on! about 3 months ago!
any other ideas people?
Peter Keen
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Saturday, January 28, 2006 - 11:29 pm, by:  Peter Keen (Slaughter) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

also sorry how do i check for codes?
Dean Carsen
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SA
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Sunday, January 29, 2006 - 12:12 am, by:  Dean Carsen (Deano) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Check that all the injector wiring caps are on tight.Similar thing happened to me recently.
your SAFC shouldnt be doing anything at idle.Its in closed loop so it shouldnt be set to compensate below 2500 rpm
Peter Keen
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Sunday, January 29, 2006 - 05:31 am, by:  Peter Keen (Slaughter) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

oh ok thanks mate ill check that!
Gary Morriss
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SA
2.5 TT 12.83 1/4 mile

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Sunday, January 29, 2006 - 07:30 am, by:  Gary Morriss (Gaza) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Peter - who put the new spark plugs in?
Check and see if any of the plastic coil pack connectors are cracked.
Peter Keen
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Sunday, January 29, 2006 - 08:51 am, by:  Peter Keen (Slaughter) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

shouldnt be lew put the new plugs in!
Gary Morriss
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Sunday, January 29, 2006 - 09:39 am, by:  Gary Morriss (Gaza) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Peter Keen
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NSW
TT

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Sunday, January 29, 2006 - 01:45 pm, by:  Peter Keen (Slaughter) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

hey there checked my plugs black as a mofo!
Cleaned them up and threw them back in still missing!
Lew said to check coils so i unplugged them when the car was running and car did make some noises like it wanted to die in the ass but it didnt she kept running anyone else got any other ideas?
Ben Evans
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Qld
"Master Power" Turbo 1J With Xtras

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Monday, January 30, 2006 - 01:24 am, by:  Ben Evans (Sbyder) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

if your plugs are rooted, they'll need to be changed, not just cleaned.

When you unplug a coil, you'll notice that the engine will miss badly, then when you plug it back on it should fire. When you find which coil doesnt affect the miss, there will be your problem. It may be arcing out due to a crack or loose connection. Be careful when doing this, because you can get a nasty zap.

The map sensor is on the firewall right next to the inlet manifold. Its a small black unit with a vacuum hose falling out its bum.

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Peter Keen
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TT

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Monday, January 30, 2006 - 03:50 pm, by:  Peter Keen (Slaughter) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks ben and Davey!
yous were both helpful and also correct!
turns out problem was map sensor ran like a dog then computer started to realise it was working and re taught itself!
mind u only found it was map sensor when i pulled all plugs and coils off! but it was a learning experience anyways
thanks everyone


This is a request to have this thread deleted as to not log up this site!
Peter Nitschke
Junk Filterer
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GT4.0 V8

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Monday, January 30, 2006 - 03:57 pm, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Might be useful for others?
Chris Davey
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Corona

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Monday, January 30, 2006 - 03:58 pm, by:  Chris Davey (Chris_davey) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Good to see you got it sorted. Was the vacuum line disconnected from the Map sensor then?

Nah, don’t delete. Someone else will have the same problem and be able to use this info. In the future.
Ben Evans
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Monday, January 30, 2006 - 09:52 pm, by:  Ben Evans (Sbyder) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

yeah, i placed a clamp on my vacuum line to make sure it wont fall off. Good stuff, and glad its sorted :-)
Justin Cook
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JZZ30 TT

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Tuesday, January 31, 2006 - 07:44 am, by:  Justin Cook (Justin) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Actually you could have pretty much guessed the problem with the SAFC saying PRS -99, pretty much saying its not getting a Pressure reading.

But hindsight is a wonderful thing. But people with SAFCs can now look out for this :-)
Peter Keen
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TT

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Tuesday, January 31, 2006 - 10:54 pm, by:  Peter Keen (Slaughter) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

yeah no worries found the problem thanks everyone for helping turns out it was the map sensor! thanks again everyone for your help much appreciated!

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