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Rob Taylor
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nsw
TT

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Friday, March 10, 2006 - 12:16 pm, by:  Rob Taylor (Tt87) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

whats the maximum boost i can pump the stock twin turbos up to before something starts to break?
Hanré Van Rensburg
TryHard
Auckland
Soarer TT

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Friday, March 10, 2006 - 12:36 pm, by:  Hanré Van Rensburg (Silent_knight) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

1Bar
Rob Taylor
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nsw
TT

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Friday, March 10, 2006 - 12:47 pm, by:  Rob Taylor (Tt87) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

so what psi would that be?
Travis Bentley
TryHard
WA
TT

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Friday, March 10, 2006 - 01:03 pm, by:  Travis Bentley (Kinny) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

14.4

So really 14
Travis Bentley
TryHard
WA
TT

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Friday, March 10, 2006 - 01:05 pm, by:  Travis Bentley (Kinny) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

14.4 is also the ECUs boost cut.

Im hitting boost cut on cold nights with just exhaust and pod (no boost controller, naturally hitting that high)
Daniel Czechowski
TryHard
Western Australia
Soarer GT-T

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Friday, March 10, 2006 - 01:56 pm, by:  Daniel Czechowski (Dan) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

WHat does boost cut feel like? I havent got any mods so it never happened to me...
Hanré Van Rensburg
TryHard
Auckland
Soarer TT

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Friday, March 10, 2006 - 02:09 pm, by:  Hanré Van Rensburg (Silent_knight) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Take your car for a drive on the motorway @ 100kph. Hit the picks and quickly let go.

It's not exactly that intense but you get a real good shake out of it.

That's the best way I could really try to describe it...
Daniel Czechowski
TryHard
Western Australia
Soarer GT-T

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Friday, March 10, 2006 - 02:12 pm, by:  Daniel Czechowski (Dan) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Hanré Van Rensburg wrote on Friday, March 10, 2006 - 02:09 pm:

Hit the picks and quickly let go.




Huh? Forgive me if I'm braindead (it's friday) what does "hit the picks" mean?
Hanré Van Rensburg
TryHard
Auckland
Soarer TT

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Friday, March 10, 2006 - 02:29 pm, by:  Hanré Van Rensburg (Silent_knight) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It's another term for stomp on your breaks really hard.
Ryan Rankovic
TryHard
Victoria
Soarer TT GT-TL

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Friday, March 10, 2006 - 02:48 pm, by:  Ryan Rankovic (Ryan1j) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

does it feel the same as speed cut?
Hanré Van Rensburg
TryHard
Auckland
Soarer TT

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Friday, March 10, 2006 - 03:05 pm, by:  Hanré Van Rensburg (Silent_knight) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Ryan Rankovic wrote on Friday, March 10, 2006 - 02:48 pm:

does it feel the same as speed cut?




Very similar yes. From my experience boost cut just hits you allot harder than speed cut.
Daniel Czechowski
TryHard
Western Australia
Soarer GT-T

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Friday, March 10, 2006 - 03:38 pm, by:  Daniel Czechowski (Dan) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Oh man, I reached the speed cut a few times and it sure wasn't pleasant... Oh well, no way will I reach the boost cut on my stockie hehe, maybe in the future.
Mark Paddick
Goo Roo
ACT
V8 Soarer UZZ31, JZZ30 TT Soarer I'm catching up!

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Friday, March 10, 2006 - 03:59 pm, by:  Mark Paddick (Sparks) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Same as rev limiter, just lock in 1st and give it a bootful
Also the same as speed cut I don't suggest you test THAT!
The same circuit is used for all three in the ECU.
Chris Davey
DieHard
QLD
Corona

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Friday, March 10, 2006 - 04:02 pm, by:  Chris Davey (Chris_davey) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

1 bar is actually 14.7psi :-)

People have run more than that but it will deteriorate quicker. There was one guy running 23psi through them. He didn't make anymore power after upping the boost anymore. No idea how long they would last at that pressure but I wouldn't think too long. I would get a boost cut defender or an Apexi RSM and run 15psi. 11psi is for wusses!

Get a full exhaust including dump pipes, BFI, FMIC, SAFC 2, 15psi and you should be over 200rwkw if it is tuned ok :-)
Cihan Aday
DieHard
Victoria
JZZ30

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Friday, March 10, 2006 - 04:12 pm, by:  Cihan Aday (Cihan) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Mark, what i want is an 'ignition' cut rather than the conventional injector cut.

Probably safer under high boost and rpm, plus it sounds and looks extremely kewl =)

Any ideas?

Cheers,
Cihan.
Mark Paddick
Goo Roo
ACT
V8 Soarer UZZ31, JZZ30 TT Soarer I'm catching up!

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Friday, March 10, 2006 - 05:48 pm, by:  Mark Paddick (Sparks) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Doing an ignition cut is easy BUT it would have to be lower than the factory one as the factory one is just about impossible to get around.
That's why MiNes are so good. They do it.
If I ever manage to kill the factory limits then fitting an interceptor to do rev cut in the igniter drive would be relatively simple and possibly even progressive.
Cihan Aday
DieHard
Victoria
JZZ30

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Saturday, March 11, 2006 - 12:27 am, by:  Cihan Aday (Cihan) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Mate apparently the emanage can reset the rev limiter.. I will have to try it when i get the thing installed completely. Apparently it does some sort of fudging, it would have to be complicated me thinks.
Morgan Cross
Goo Roo
Victoria
Soarer TT

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Saturday, March 11, 2006 - 09:05 am, by:  Morgan Cross (Morgan) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Cihan, I'm not going to get into a tech battle wiht ya, as you will beat my ass haha, but...

I'm pretty certain that the Emanage cannot do anything to the rev limiter, my reasoning being that a big fuss is made about Mines full replacement ECU's as they are the only thing that can touch the rev limiter.

In all my time browsing these forums too, I've never heard about it either.

Cheers.
Cihan Aday
DieHard
Victoria
JZZ30

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Saturday, March 11, 2006 - 11:52 am, by:  Cihan Aday (Cihan) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeah im having my doubts. Although how many people here have tried removing the rev limiter in the first place? I know manny has, but he's got a power FC full replacement.

I dont know anyone else, apart from a few v8 guys?

Cheers,
Cihan.
Benjamin Burgess
TryHard
NSW
Toyota Soarer GT-TL

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Saturday, March 11, 2006 - 12:41 pm, by:  Benjamin Burgess (Jampac) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Also a good idea if you up the boost that you zip tie all your small rubber lines that have manifold or after turbo pressure in them as they can leak which makes it act like a bleed valve and your boost increases even more. They can also blow off but you'll know when that happens.
Chris Davey
DieHard
QLD
Corona

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Saturday, March 11, 2006 - 12:42 pm, by:  Chris Davey (Chris_davey) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have :-) easy as with any stand alone ecu :-)
Cihan Aday
DieHard
Victoria
JZZ30

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Saturday, March 11, 2006 - 11:35 pm, by:  Cihan Aday (Cihan) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well there ya go..

When i need a standalone, i will have a stand alone. Amin.

Todd Williams
Tinkerer
WA
JZA70 R (BLMQZ)

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Reg: 09-2005

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Sunday, March 12, 2006 - 08:50 pm, by:  Todd Williams (Jza70_r) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yes fuel based limiters are very boring... that's why i cant wait to get my Power FC Pro in, mmm dual stage ignition limiters.

One thing i find very interesting is Toyotas move to ignition based limiters with the 2JZ-GTE... The audiable difference between a 1JZ and a 2JZ bouncing of the rev limiter is as clear as night and day, but only the 2JZ's makes you feel all fuzzy inside. :-)
Dan McColl
DieHard
Victoria
UZZ-32 V8 Soarer #138

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Sunday, March 12, 2006 - 08:53 pm, by:  Dan McColl (Hoon) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My speed cut is really smooth. You don't feel a thing.
Cihan Aday
DieHard
Victoria
JZZ30

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Sunday, March 12, 2006 - 09:29 pm, by:  Cihan Aday (Cihan) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thats because its top speed, v8's dont have limiters.

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