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Cam Price
Tinkerer
VIC
GTT

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Reg: 03-2006

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Wednesday, March 29, 2006 - 01:23 am, by:  Cam Price (Cf1jztt) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

ay guys i was wandering if you know the correct specs for a stock soarer? Because i've read everything from 13.6 up2 15 flat... and 0-100 in 5.8 up2 7 flat... now i've timed my car when it was completely stock and got about high 5's low 6's 0-100 and never did 1/4 mile... later i got a custom exhaust, and i timed a 4.9 0-100 on a cold night with stock boost, just exhaust and pod, i've also beaten cars that run low 13's and i've lost count of how many FMIC'd r33s that i've beaten, are the 94 models any faster then the 91's?? and does that sound normal for a 94 or have i luckily found a nice 1?? thanks!!
Luis Ramirez
Tinkerer
WA
Soarer TT

Posts: 95
Reg: 08-2005

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Wednesday, March 29, 2006 - 02:17 am, by:  Luis Ramirez (Lui) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

best 0-100 i done is 5.5 with my g-tech meter.
That's with 233hp at wheels. Was getting bout 6.5-7 when stock.
Paul Brockbank
TryHard
WA
Soarer TT

Posts: 474
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Wednesday, March 29, 2006 - 02:30 am, by:  Paul Brockbank (Brockas) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Take it down to the track.

Only way to find out for sure is to check your MPH.

If you can beat my 302rwhp car with an exhaust and filter I'd be very very impressed. It's entirely possible that your '94 motor has high compression ('fresh motor').
Jero Evans
Tinkerer
TAS
Soarer 1JZ-GTE TT

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Reg: 03-2006

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Wednesday, March 29, 2006 - 08:18 am, by:  Jero Evans (Doakwolf) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Cam, do you have an auto or man? Those times for a stock car are insane! I seriously need a tune!!!
Daniel Clarke
Tinkerer
NSW
TT 2.5L 6 cylinder

Posts: 35
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Wednesday, March 29, 2006 - 04:50 pm, by:  Daniel Clarke (Dieseltrain) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

From what i have read over the years, a 91-95 Manual stock 1jz is good for 13.6 1/4 mile and about 5.8 for the 0-100 dash. Automatic around 14.2 and 6.6 foir the 0-100.

These times were when cars were relativley new, so fresh motors and such. And also a driver who probably knew how to drive them. Remember your car may have more potential, its a matter of learning how to drive the limits out of it if thats what your looking for.
Daniel Czechowski
DieHard
Western Australia
Soarer GT-T

Posts: 548
Reg: 07-2005

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Wednesday, March 29, 2006 - 04:57 pm, by:  Daniel Czechowski (Dan) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Some of the early reviews I've read (ie around 2001) some mag or a website test drove a manual and auto TT, both stock, and concluded that the manual soarer had a very negligible advantage over the auto one, as the auto box has been very well programmed. Whether that's true or not I'm not sure, the guy could have been a crappy driver, but I wouldn't be surprised if that is the case.
Aaron Mead
Tinkerer
NT
300SEL (L6, NA)

Posts: 70
Reg: 03-2006

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Wednesday, March 29, 2006 - 05:13 pm, by:  Aaron Mead (Aaron) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I dont believe that 10-15 years on, there is any real standard left. The only way to find out is to head to a drag strip (which in two of my 300+ visits have given me wrong times) and check your own car against the slip.

Or, try your G-tech, RSM etc... to get a roughish idea.
Jero Evans
Tinkerer
TAS
Soarer 1JZ-GTE TT

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Thursday, March 30, 2006 - 08:15 am, by:  Jero Evans (Doakwolf) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Aaron,

I've actually just installed an RSM so I'll be testing out my car when I get my FMIC installed and the car re-tuned.

I have a factory manual with hi-flo turbos @ ~15psi, large dumps (dyno @ 200+rwkw) and can't get under 6 seconds for a 0-100. Though I'm not the best driver (this is my first half decent car and I havn't owned it long!) and as Daniel said, I will improve my driving skills over time. I think one problem is that my gearbox is extremely stiff. It's very hard to change from first to second quickly so I think I'm losing around .3 of a second just in my gear change. I've spoken to mechanics about maybe thinning my gear oil a little to ease it up. My car seems to have insane mid-range but loses a lot in the top end (5k onwards). Compression was mentioned earlier in this thread - I think my 1jz compression is pretty good too as you can quite literally stand a coin on the rocker cover with the engine running and it will not move. The last mechanic who looked at my car just stood there watching it idle and said "that's b^llsh!t!" (meaning he couldn't believe how smoothly the engine ran!)

I've also only got 235s on the rear so I'm getting a lot of wheel spin in first gear and quite often in second gear too unless I squeeze it slow.

Can't wait to get it tuned and then do some 1/4 mile runs :-)

Are you all launching your cars off the mark or taking off 'granny style'?

Cheers,
Jero.

Have I hi-jacked this thread
Matthew Sharpe
DieHard
North Island
3.0 GT

Posts: 614
Reg: 10-2005

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Thursday, March 30, 2006 - 10:50 am, by:  Matthew Sharpe (Madmatt) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Daniel Czechowski wrote on Wednesday, March 29, 2006 - 03:57 pm:

Some of the early reviews I've read (ie around 2001) some mag or a website test drove a manual and auto TT, both stock, and concluded that the manual soarer had a very negligible advantage over the auto one, as the auto box has been very well programmed. Whether that's true or not I'm not sure, the guy could have been a crappy driver, but I wouldn't be surprised if that is the case.




I'd agree - the days are long gone when a manual would get nearly a second on 0-100 over an auto, even when driven by an experienced driver - even in the mid 70's auto transmissions were closing the gap.
Daniel Czechowski
DieHard
Western Australia
Soarer GT-T

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Thursday, March 30, 2006 - 11:42 am, by:  Daniel Czechowski (Dan) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Matthew Sharpe wrote on Thursday, March 30, 2006 - 09:50 am:

the days are long gone when a manual would get nearly a second on 0-100 over an auto




Unless it's a 1.3 litre 4 cylinder econobox
Luke Nieuwhof
DieHard
WA
Soarer TT

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Thursday, March 30, 2006 - 01:04 pm, by:  Luke Nieuwhof (Luke_nieuwhof) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Festiva power!!!!

When are we going to see you at the drags Daniel?
Matthew Sharpe
DieHard
North Island
3.0 GT

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Thursday, March 30, 2006 - 01:08 pm, by:  Matthew Sharpe (Madmatt) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Daniel Czechowski wrote on Thursday, March 30, 2006 - 10:42 am:

Unless it's a 1.3 litre 4 cylinder econobox




Yup, with power steering and aircon on top
Chris Davey
DieHard
QLD
Corona

Posts: 624
Reg: 07-2005

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Thursday, March 30, 2006 - 01:34 pm, by:  Chris Davey (Chris_davey) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I will give someone $5 if they can prove to me that they have had "their" dead stock jzz30 manual down the 1/4 mile in 13.6 seconds on regular street tyres!

Go have a look at the 1/4 mile threads in the events section and see what times people are running. In my 1jz list the guys running high 12's have a lot of mods but still stock turbos or possibly high flowed and steel wheeled.

Dead stock auto soarer range from 14.0 to 15.5 or so And I would predict that a manual wouldn’t go quicker than 14.0 either and quite possibly slower than 15.5 if they have a terrible driver.

¼ mile calc with stock power and 1700kg (including average fat ozzy driver :P) says 14.56 to 14.23 at 280 to 300 flywheel hp. And remembering that these calculators are basically on a perfect run and typically n/a vehicle with flat torque curve.
Daniel Clarke
Tinkerer
NSW
TT 2.5L 6 cylinder

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Reg: 03-2006

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Thursday, March 30, 2006 - 07:50 pm, by:  Daniel Clarke (Dieseltrain) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My rego papers say 1560 kg's for my 91 TT. All velour interior, Electric seats and all options(that i know of). Im guessing though that 1560 may be a dry weight? But seeing as its an import, That should be the figure with all fluids and maybe some fuel.
Obviously that dont include driver. But hey, I'd rather my 1560 plus me than a Bloody 1700kg HSV or an 1800 FPV GT. Im sure they weight more than that with fluids and drivers,hehe! Love leaving em behind too :-)
Daniel Clarke
Tinkerer
NSW
TT 2.5L 6 cylinder

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Thursday, March 30, 2006 - 07:54 pm, by:  Daniel Clarke (Dieseltrain) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hey Jero, I have an Auto and at the moment have 265/35.18's on the back. When i Drop the hammer from a standstill(not stalling it up), it takes off and then accelerates hard with minor wheelspin. Try running some wider tyres.
Chris Davey
DieHard
QLD
Corona

Posts: 625
Reg: 07-2005

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Friday, March 31, 2006 - 01:46 pm, by:  Chris Davey (Chris_davey) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

daniel: if you want to know how much it weighs just to to your local dump and ask them. I have no idea where they get the weights on rego. papers but some of them that I have heard of have been way off. And there is only one way to find out :-)
Cihan Aday
DieHard
Victoria
JZZ30

Posts: 656
Reg: 07-2005

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Sunday, April 02, 2006 - 01:14 am, by:  Cihan Aday (Cihan) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

According to rego papers, my car weighs.... DRUM ROLL... 1100kg.

Now, that would make for some G force action.
Morgan Cross
Goo Roo
Melbourne
Soarer TT

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Reg: 07-2005

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Sunday, April 02, 2006 - 02:50 am, by:  Morgan Cross (Morgan) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Mine says 1690kg!

Although, I shouldn't complain! It got me out of a $110 fine a few months back.
Jeff Smith
TryHard
NSW
TT Limited :-)

Posts: 161
Reg: 07-2005

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Sunday, April 02, 2006 - 09:24 am, by:  Jeff Smith (Mozzie) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Curious! what fine did you get out of?
Morgan Cross
Goo Roo
Melbourne
Soarer TT

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Sunday, April 02, 2006 - 01:58 pm, by:  Morgan Cross (Morgan) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Power: Weight ratio. Victorian Laws state that P-Plater drivers are restricted to smaller less powerful engines and are limited to 125kw (At the flywheel) per 1000kg

So saying the Soarer TT is 1550kg and 206kw it works out at like 132kw/1000kg. Then you get hit with a $110 fine and are told to park the car and get a fully licenced driver to come pick it up.

If you get caught 3 times... Then you have to go to court and explain to the judge why they shouldn't confiscate your car off you, not sure if that's true but I certainly know people who have been taken to court over it.
Cihan Aday
DieHard
Victoria
JZZ30

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Reg: 07-2005

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Sunday, April 02, 2006 - 04:57 pm, by:  Cihan Aday (Cihan) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Its definitely an enforcable law, but hardly exercised unless the P plater's been caught doing something ridiculous.
Gianni Matrogiannis
Tinkerer
nsw
SC400 V8

Posts: 55
Reg: 08-2005

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Tuesday, April 04, 2006 - 09:31 pm, by:  Gianni Matrogiannis (Gianni) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

13.6 out of a stock soarer. come on they are nowhere near that quick. keep in mind that a 13.6 is a preety fast street car, standard ls1's dont even get that. i think some people are dreaming. i saw at the strip a while ago a standard TT manual do a 15.5 i think a 15 is the absolute best you will get out of a standard soarer
Morgan Cross
Goo Roo
Melbourne
Soarer TT

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Wednesday, April 05, 2006 - 12:20 am, by:  Morgan Cross (Morgan) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Luke from WA has done a 14.09 in a stock TT.

Maybe the V8's can only do 15.5's?
Paul Brockbank
TryHard
WA
Soarer TT

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Reg: 07-2005

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Wednesday, April 05, 2006 - 12:47 am, by:  Paul Brockbank (Brockas) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Morgan Cross wrote on Wednesday, April 05, 2006 - 12:20 am:

Luke from WA has done a 14.09 in a stock TT.



This is true, he does have a stock LSD though.

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