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Callum Finch
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WA
Soarer TT

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Saturday, April 15, 2006 - 10:19 pm, by:  Callum Finch (Sigeneat) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Chris, it warms my heart to hear you say that =)

Yeah, my 60' for that run was ~2.2something

<3

The take off is really slow in mine..
A typical race against Luke follows roughly these lines:
On a good launch, Luke edges out infront, much quicker out of the gates until about 1/4 track where our speeds match.
From 1/4 track until 1/2 track the gap doesnt change.
1/2 track to 3/4 track i slowly edge closer.
3/4 track the car takes off
1/4 mile and i finish a couple of lengths infront.
If the car started better (perhaps higher stall?) off the line it would be very beneficial later on.. of course i cant exactly change gears any better! XD

My car has been getting progressively slower over the last few meets i have been to. My skill has been increasing and conditions have been getting better.. but the car has been running slower .. its mind boggling.!

I have new tyres on the way however, going to order MY shift kit this week (LUKE! >=| ) and then a tune sometime in the next 2 weeks.. i wanna give it all i got for the 28th and 29th drag meets.
Hopefully all will be in and ready to go.. (fingers crossed!)

Im not looking at upping the stall at this stage, however thats not ruling the idea out!

Next wave of mods after the kit etc may include higher stall, 440cc injectors and a new fuel pump. Tune it all proportionally and see what happens.
Paul Brockbank
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WA
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Monday, April 17, 2006 - 04:28 am, by:  Paul Brockbank (Brockas) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Daniel, this should answer your question.

My car's results at every stage:
Exhaust, FMIC, Dumps, 14psi, 236rwhp - 13.95 @ 100mph (1.98 60')

+ S-AFC II, 302rwhp - 13.41 @ 105mph (1.91 60')

+ shift kit - 13.21 @ 105mph (1.95 60')


Note: I don't have an LSD and my manual bleed valve means that its only running 0.90 bar by the end of the track.
Daniel Clarke
Tinkerer
NSW
TT 2.5L 6 cylinder

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Monday, April 17, 2006 - 09:14 am, by:  Daniel Clarke (Dieseltrain) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Awsome Paul, Cheers for that info. Thats some sweet times your running there. Is that on your normal street tyres?
Paul Brockbank
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Monday, April 17, 2006 - 12:24 pm, by:  Paul Brockbank (Brockas) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yes, although deflated somewhat.

I'm on my 3rd set of tyres, none of them make much of a difference to traction.

What you have to look at with the times is the % gain from each mod.
As you get faster and faster it becomes harder to get bigger gains, so the shift kit is unfairly represented there because it's the last mod I've done.
Daniel Clarke
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Monday, April 17, 2006 - 12:35 pm, by:  Daniel Clarke (Dieseltrain) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I cant beleive how much of a difference the SAFC made, not only 1/4 mile time and MPH but how much more
HP@wheels. And from what ive heard, they help a bit with fuel economy also.
Callum Finch
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Monday, April 17, 2006 - 01:42 pm, by:  Callum Finch (Sigeneat) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Who'da thunk that a more efficient and lean tuning would mean more power! =P

From what i remember, Brockas runs his car on air? Or just about?
ie, very lean tuning, more powah.

Or am i wrong mate?
Cihan Aday
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Victoria
JZZ30

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Monday, April 17, 2006 - 03:21 pm, by:  Cihan Aday (Cihan) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

With more minor mods, running in the low - mid 12's for AFR's is acceptable. Once you get over about 210rwkw its harder to keep knock sensor intervention to a minimum. Half the time they're active and your making less power and heating things up for no good reason.

If you tune too lean, your loosing power anyway.
A good balance needs to be reached, and im sure thats what brokas' cars had done for such good results.

They run like from the factory, a good tune is an environment saver.

And no guys, carbon ISN'T a good fertiliser.
Paul Brockbank
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Monday, April 17, 2006 - 09:43 pm, by:  Paul Brockbank (Brockas) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Callum Finch wrote on Monday, April 17, 2006 - 01:42 pm:

From what i remember, Brockas runs his car on air? Or just about?
ie, very lean tuning, more powah.

Or am i wrong mate?



100% wrong again mate.

Unfortunately I don't have a pic of my dyno sheet on my computer to prove it to you, but my AFR's sit basically spot on 12.0:1.

Last person to tune your car (before you bought it) was Steve Thomas, renouned engine popper. I'd be getting a re-tune if I was you.
Cihan Aday
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Monday, April 17, 2006 - 11:20 pm, by:  Cihan Aday (Cihan) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

12 flat is safe, thats what they should sit at for longetivity.

Steve Thomas maybe using inaccurate tools and sensors. Dyno AFR's are always showing leaner than your actually running because of the CAT. Any exhaust leaks also throw the sensor off.

Even so, i wouldnt label somone unless you can back it up.
Callum Finch
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Tuesday, April 18, 2006 - 01:37 am, by:  Callum Finch (Sigeneat) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

No need to prove it to me Paul, your word is good enough ;D

Yeah you were saying at the dyno day. Luckily my car runs quite rich so im in the green, however like you have said time and time again i could easily squeeze out some more power from a decent tune.

Its on the cards, and i plan to have one done in the next 2 weeks. Can you get me super discounts at XSpeed or what? ;)

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