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Chris Davey
DieHard
QLD
Corona

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Thursday, June 15, 2006 - 08:18 am, by:  Chris Davey (Chris_davey) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Chris: I don’t know anything about the emanage ultimate other than some people are finding it hard to get a tuner for them. Cihan is one of the resident Emanage gurus :-)

All I know is that I like my microtech :-) Also, 4 out of the 5 quickest 1jz powered cars in Australia are using one. I know that doesn’t tell the whole story about drivability but from what I have heard all have been happy with that also. I will be starting my tuning tonight so will have some more info. soon :-)

Paul: check out
www.supraforums.com and go to MkIII then 1jz/2jz section. Lots of guys in the US making big power on basic setups like single turbo, stock ecu, FCD and safc. One guy just made over 500rwhp with that setup. (dyno jets do read higher but that is still around 300rwkw on our dynos)
Cihan Aday
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Victoria
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Thursday, June 15, 2006 - 11:36 am, by:  Cihan Aday (Cihan) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Chris Davey wrote on Thursday, June 15, 2006 - 08:18 am:

I know that doesn’t tell the whole story about drivability but from what I have heard all have been happy with that also. I will be starting my tuning tonight so will have some more info. soon



Hey thats great news, make a thread about it will ya. Hopefully that 45' wakes the up and makes some big ponies!

Chris Davey
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Corona

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Thursday, June 15, 2006 - 11:50 am, by:  Chris Davey (Chris_davey) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ok, will do. What section to put it in though? articles of interest?

I have a members ride thread on another forum that I update with new info.
Cihan Aday
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Thursday, June 15, 2006 - 06:39 pm, by:  Cihan Aday (Cihan) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Corona Tuning Adventures
hehe

Its up to you. You might just want to post a thread link to the other forum. Is is toymods?
Chris Davey
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Thursday, June 15, 2006 - 06:45 pm, by:  Chris Davey (Chris_davey) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Got a couple actually but Toymods is one of them :-)

I will start a new thread here once I get some solid info. The other threads have heaps of rambling in them!
Chris Mckenzie
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Saturday, June 17, 2006 - 02:33 pm, by:  Chris Mckenzie (Mrcurlyfry) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

ok chris i will have a look at the mircotech thanks
Cihan Aday
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Emanage is tha good.
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Saturday, June 17, 2006 - 05:11 pm, by:  Cihan Aday (Cihan) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Guys you cant use a 3BAR map sensor in conjunction with the stock ecu without proper piggyback management. And it definitely wont work (edit: work well enough, for my standards)with the safc-II.

The thing is, the new MAP sensor is still a voltage input from 0-5 volts with a 2.65v atmospheric pressure middle point. The only thing thats different is the resolution either side of these points.

The stock ECU will engage boost cut when the MAP sensor output is 4.82v no matter what you do. On the stock MAP sensor that corresponds to 14.7psi, with the 3BAR MAP that corresponds to 29.4psi hence, you can run up to 29.4psi before boost cut occurs.

If you plug in a 3BAR MAP without doing a complete retune of all load points between 1.0v-5.0v and 0-8000rpm, it will run lean and you will blow your engine before reaching 1bar.

So dont try it without an E-Manage or powerMOD installed and dyno tuned with the new MAP sensor.
Paul Brockbank
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WA
Soarer TT

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Saturday, June 17, 2006 - 06:24 pm, by:  Paul Brockbank (Brockas) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Cheers Cihan!
Cihan Aday
Goo Roo
" 238.7rwkw + 2JZ cams = ? "
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Saturday, February 10, 2007 - 01:13 pm, by:  Cihan Aday (Cihan) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Cihan Aday wrote on Saturday, June 17, 2006 - 05:11 pm:

The stock ECU will engage boost cut when the MAP sensor output is 4.82v no matter what you do. On the stock MAP sensor that corresponds to 14.7psi


Firstly id like to correct my previous post by stating that boost cut occurs at about 14psi which corresponds to ~4.33v and can be eliminated by setting the FCD to 4.32v or lower.

To answer your question - think of a FCD as a limiter. Upto the point it is set to, it makes no alterations to the MAP output the ECU reads.

It will only lean out the AFR if you run more boost than the FCD is set to.



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Benjamin Burgess
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NSW
Toyota Soarer GT-TL, Toyota Corolla Conquest

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Sunday, February 11, 2007 - 10:35 am, by:  Benjamin Burgess (Jampac) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The clamp is setup a bit differently on a powermod. Of the two cars I've had them installed on, a run a stock boost level was done, finding the max voltage, which was clamped at that voltage. So basically factory ecu would always think it was stock.
Cihan Aday
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" 238.7rwkw + 2JZ cams = ? "
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Sunday, February 11, 2007 - 11:44 am, by:  Cihan Aday (Cihan) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You can do that of course, then make fuelling and timing alterations directly via the injector drivers and based on the cam and crank angle sensors respectively. Can be done with the EMU like this also :-)
Benjamin Burgess
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NSW
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Sunday, February 11, 2007 - 03:03 pm, by:  Benjamin Burgess (Jampac) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

powermod is similar to emanage ultimate, ie changing fueling doesn't effect timing.
Daniel Clarke
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Sunday, February 11, 2007 - 04:15 pm, by:  Daniel Clarke (Dieseltrain) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The new Turbosmart FCD3 has a slope 3 adjustable dials on it.

http://www.redlineperformance.co.nz/main.cfm?id=2&pid=758

Pretty kick ass if you ask me. Well for an FCD anyways. Allows you to Slope the clamped voltage.

So if your car is too lean in the midrange when boost hits, this will clamp it at a higher level and then slope into it.

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