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Patrick Chan
TryHard
Victoria
Soarer TT
Posts: 183
Reg: 08-2005
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Hey
Just wondering what is the stud pattern of Soarers and the offset? I have a set of FTO rims which are 114.3 x 5 d offset of 38. Just wanted to see if these 16inch rims will fit on the Soarer.
Thanks |
Daniel Lee
DieHard
Victoria
Soarer GT Limited UZZ31 V8
Posts: 677
Reg: 07-2005
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Soarer stud pattern is 5x114.3 and offset is +50. |
Patrick Chan
TryHard
Victoria
Soarer TT
Posts: 184
Reg: 08-2005
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So the wheels will fit because their 16inch and will clear the TT brakes but the wheels would obviously sit very far in because of the small offset compaired to the offset of +50 on the Soarers? |
Peter Nitschke
JunkFilterer
South Australia
GT4.0 V8
Posts: 5058
Reg: 11-2004
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They will sit further out by 50-38=12mm.
Tramline city if you have worn bushes and/or worn tyres, though some tyres are worse than others and it is also more noticeable with wider tyres. I run 40 offset with no problems, but I have replaced all the CA bushes and have newish tyres with no centre groove.
They should fit over the brakes but it might be possible that they don't. Take a few minutes and test one to be sure. |
Mark Paddick
Goo Roo
ACT
UZZ31 V8 Soarer , JZZ30 TT Soarer
Posts: 2646
Reg: 07-2005
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They will be OK but as a said tramlining may be a problem. General geometry of the front end won't be right.
The best thing I ever did was get rid of my old 48mm offset rims and go to Supra standard rims.
I didn't even realise there was anything wrong 'til I changed them. It drove OK, now it drives great. |
Peter Nitschke
JunkFilterer
South Australia
GT4.0 V8
Posts: 5062
Reg: 11-2004
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2mm made that much difference? |
Travis Bentley
TryHard
WA
DUEL TURBOCHARGED LEXXXXUS (Yes my turbos fight each other)
Posts: 178
Reg: 07-2005
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Id say he meant 38.
Im the king of tramlining, didnt know it was because of my rim offset. I think mine are 40mm. Front bushes are worn tho  |
Gareth Richards
TryHard
Bristol UK
GTT-L twin turbo auto
Posts: 139
Reg: 07-2005
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What's the centre bore of the FTO wheels? Smaller than 60.1mm and they won't fit, larger and you'll need spigot rings. |
Steven Nanevski
DieHard
NSW
JZZ30 TD04 Twin Turbo (coming soon!)
Posts: 537
Reg: 07-2005
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My offsets on the front are +38 and I have no tramlining issues at all... |
Andrew Ferres
TryHard
WA
Cressida V8
Posts: 351
Reg: 07-2005
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Gareth Richards wrote on Wednesday, June 28, 2006 - 06:40 pm:What's the centre bore of the FTO wheels? Smaller than 60.1mm and they won't fit, larger and you'll need spigot rings.
I thought stock was 62mm?
At least thats what DBA quote as the hole in the size of the disc.
And you shouldn't notice tramlining from +38's compared to +50's.
The MA61 Supra came stock with +8's on the big rims, and +20's on the small rims.
And I've never heard anyone complain of the +8's tramlining compared to the +20's. |
Damien Smith
DieHard
NSW
Manual UZZ31
Posts: 661
Reg: 07-2005
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I had bad tramlining until I had the LCA bushes replaced and now I have none with +40mm rims. |
Harry Lemmens
TryHard
Victoria
V8
Posts: 210
Reg: 11-2004
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If your car seems to tramline severely, check the bush that holds the steering rack in place. It just so happens that the V8 power steering leak drenches that bush, the result is a disintegraring bush!
A new bush may well help to reduce what appears on the surface to be tramlining (But does not get rid of it entirely!) |
Damien Smith
DieHard
NSW
Manual UZZ31
Posts: 663
Reg: 07-2005
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Andrew Ferres wrote on Thursday, June 29, 2006 - 11:12 am:I thought stock was 62mm?
At least thats what DBA quote as the hole in the size of the disc.
I saw that too but I just called Niall and he measured one - definitely 60mm. |
Damien Smith
DieHard
NSW
Manual UZZ31
Posts: 664
Reg: 07-2005
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BTW, good to see you Harry! |
Andrew Ferres
TryHard
WA
Cressida V8
Posts: 355
Reg: 07-2005
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Ok cheers Damien.
I wonder if the hub is 62mm just for the 8mm or so thickness of the disc, and then steps down to 60mm?
Or maybe DBA have the catalogue typo? |
Steve Latimer
TryHard
VIC
UZZ32
Posts: 127
Reg: 07-2005
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Hello Wombat, good to see you've stopped hibernating
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Tom Cousin
Tinkerer
Victoria
GT Ltd V8
Posts: 29
Reg: 07-2005
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Hi All,
Has anyone had a problem with "slack" between the rack and pinion on the steering box. I went to Pedders to renew the LCA bushes recently and sure enough there is some movement there that is quite noticable. Gives a rattle that I initially thought was the LCA bushes. Cheers |
Gareth Richards
TryHard
Bristol UK
GTT-L twin turbo auto / Lexus GS300 SE Mk2
Posts: 140
Reg: 07-2005
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I assume that the disc centre is 62mm to allow for the temperature that discs can reach. |
Damien Smith
DieHard
NSW
Manual UZZ31
Posts: 665
Reg: 07-2005
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A hole in the middle of an expanding plate of metal gets bigger, not smaller. |
Matthew Sharpe
Goo Roo
North Island
JZZ31
Posts: 1196
Reg: 10-2005
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Damien Smith wrote on Friday, June 30, 2006 - 09:21 am:A hole in the middle of an expanding plate of metal gets bigger, not smaller.
Nope, it gets smaller. It expands in all directions, not just outwards (assuming heating is even accross the whole piece of metal). Still, I doubt you'd get 2 mm of difference, thats a huge amount for steel. |
Damien Smith
DieHard
NSW
Manual UZZ31
Posts: 666
Reg: 07-2005
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Here's an exercise for you. Take a piece of metal and draw a circle on it now heat it. Measure the drawn on circle and it'll be bigger than before as everything has moved outwards. Now, cut out that same circle, heat it and measure it again - it will also be bigger. Seems a bit counterintuitive at first but that's the way it works.
Also, think of it this way. If the material around the inside diameter expands does the circle get bigger or smaller? |
Tom Cousin
Tinkerer
Victoria
GT Ltd V8
Posts: 30
Reg: 07-2005
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Sorry for the delay in answering. The slack is actually in the steering unit itself. Lock or hold the steering wheel tightly and move the wheels, there is internal movement inside the unit. Shims for the clearance?? |
Gareth Richards
TryHard
Bristol UK
GTT-L twin turbo auto / Lexus GS300 SE Mk2
Posts: 143
Reg: 07-2005
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Damien Smith wrote on Friday, June 30, 2006 - 09:21 am:A hole in the middle of an expanding plate of metal gets bigger, not smaller.
Then maybe it's 62mm just because it doesn't need to be a tight fit |
Damien Smith
DieHard
NSW
Manual UZZ31
Posts: 668
Reg: 07-2005
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Tom, you can replace the steering rack bushes which makes a big difference to how direct the steering feels. The whole rack may be moving.
You may be right Gareth - someone with DBA disks should measure it |
Daniel Lee
DieHard
Victoria
Soarer GT Limited UZZ31 V8
Posts: 680
Reg: 07-2005
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I recently got the steering rack bushes replaced and now i can feel a rattle in the steering wheel when travel at 100km/hr.
Before the steering rack bushes replace, i never have any rattle.
Does anyone know whats the problem? |
Matthew Sharpe
Goo Roo
North Island
JZZ31
Posts: 1206
Reg: 10-2005
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Damien Smith wrote on Friday, June 30, 2006 - 01:24 pm:Also, think of it this way. If the material around the inside diameter expands does the circle get bigger or smaller?
Weird, I'd expect it to work that way with a pipe/cylinder (as it clearly does) but with a flat section I would have expected the heated molecules to just use up whatever space was there. I'll take your word for it though. |
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