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Trevor Tai
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Tuesday, August 16, 2005 - 01:07 pm, by:  Trevor Tai Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I recently got myself a boost gauge and tried installing it. I know that the tube coming out of the gauge is meant to be attached to a vacuum tube, preferably cut into the tube feeding into the VSV. But I always get a reading on the gauge from the vacuum tube of just that, VACUUM! not boost. When I rev the engine it, the gauge shows less vacuum but no boost, it is always in the negative.

help.... someone...
Troy Tappenden
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Tuesday, August 16, 2005 - 01:32 pm, by:  Troy Tappenden Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Tap the boost gauge in to the line that runs from the fuel pressure regulator to the plenum chamber. That one is very accurate :-)

Also, make sure you have a turbo car!!

Sorry... he he he
Emanuel Spinola
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Tuesday, August 16, 2005 - 02:05 pm, by:  Emanuel Spinola Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Troy
That's ultra dodgy and poor advice - you should never tap into the fuel pressure regulator or MAP sensor lines - if you blow a hose off the gauge at high boost, you've just leaned out your engine...knock, knock, crunch, bang.
Andrew Ferres
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Tuesday, August 16, 2005 - 06:21 pm, by:  Andrew Ferres Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Trevor, you won't build boost in neutral.

Take it for a spin.

If you still don't have boost showing on the guage you have tapped into the wrong side of the VSV
Gareth Richards
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Tuesday, August 16, 2005 - 09:31 pm, by:  Gareth Richards Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Emanuel Spinola wrote on Tuesday, August 16, 2005 - 02:05 pm:

you should never tap into the fuel pressure regulator or MAP sensor lines - if you blow a hose off the gauge at high boost, you've just leaned out your engine...knock, knock, crunch, bang



That's no exaggeration. Happened to a Supra in the UK recently when a hose popped off the FPR. Big clouds of smoke across all 6 lanes of the motorway, apparently, so I assume it holed a piston or three.



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Troy Tappenden
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Wednesday, August 17, 2005 - 10:21 am, by:  Troy Tappenden Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hmm, That's where I was told to put it, but I can see your point Manny. Where would you advise it be moved to remove the possibility of a problem? I have a drag meet in 3 days, so if that is the case, I really should look at moving it to a safer place?
Trevor Tai
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Wednesday, August 17, 2005 - 11:34 am, by:  Trevor Tai Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Troy - turbo car...CHECK...!!!

Andrew - when the car is in neutral it shows vacuum, i rev the engine, it shows less vacuum.

in the pic below, which is the correct tube to connect to? the one closest to the firewall coming out of the engine? because I have tried the one next to it going to the VSV.

anyone? please?

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Andrew Ferres
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Wednesday, August 17, 2005 - 11:38 am, by:  Andrew Ferres Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Andrew - when the car is in neutral it shows vacuum, i rev the engine, it shows less vacuum
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Yes, thats normal
What does it do while driving?
Trevor Tai
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Wednesday, August 17, 2005 - 11:38 am, by:  Trevor Tai Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

oh, and thanks to manny for posting this pic... saves me having to take my own...
Trevor Tai
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Wednesday, August 17, 2005 - 11:40 am, by:  Trevor Tai Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i'll have to get back to you on that one Andrew, thanks mate.
Emanuel Spinola
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Wednesday, August 17, 2005 - 01:26 pm, by:  Emanuel Spinola Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Troy
In the pic above which was of my old setup, I used a T piece into the line marked #2 which normally goes to the heater tap VSV.
Troy Tappenden
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Thursday, August 18, 2005 - 03:38 pm, by:  Troy Tappenden Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Cool, thanks Manny, I will have to change mine soon and run mine off that line.

Cheers!
Trevor Tai
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Friday, August 26, 2005 - 01:09 pm, by:  Trevor Tai Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

thanks Andrew. The boost gauge works great.

Just curious, why does it have vacuum whilst in idle? the turbos aren't going backwards are they?!?!?
Andrew Ferres
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Friday, August 26, 2005 - 01:15 pm, by:  Andrew Ferres Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Its at vacuum because the intake system is restricting the amount of air coming in.
Jeff Wilkins
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Friday, August 26, 2005 - 02:42 pm, by:  Jeff Wilkins Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The vacuum is caused by the pistons going down the bore thus drawing air into the chamber (providing the inlet valve is open of course). Until you have sufficient RPM/exhaust flow/load to cause the turbos to spin bloody quickly they will not be pushing enough air into the inlet manifold to negate this slight vacuum (ie until you have decent revs your car is basically an N/A vehicle, remembering N/A cars NEVER have positive pressure in the inlet manifold).
Trevor Tai
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Tuesday, August 30, 2005 - 09:55 pm, by:  Trevor Tai (Quiksilva) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

ah, gotcha! thanks fellas!
Cihan Aday
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Wednesday, August 31, 2005 - 10:08 am, by:  Cihan Aday (Cihan) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i better move my reading..
lol this is funny. Potential time bomb for the engine, because of a little tube.
Wayne Koh
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Wednesday, October 05, 2005 - 12:03 pm, by:  Wayne Koh (Teknoboi) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i just got my boost gauge today,
i have no idea where to cut in the vacuum line let alone where it is

above in the pic.. which one should i put the T-Piece in?

thanks
Wayne Koh
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Wednesday, October 05, 2005 - 12:33 pm, by:  Wayne Koh (Teknoboi) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

nevermind, tried it on the hose 2

shows 9.5psi
thats ok right? considering they are about 9 stock?
Aaron Mead
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Wednesday, April 05, 2006 - 06:57 pm, by:  Aaron Mead (Aaron) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

this one time, at band camp.......


I had a z18et in a navara, and when I got it back from having the ECU wired up, the brake booster line was tapped of the FPR........
Daniel Kim
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Tuesday, July 04, 2006 - 03:32 pm, by:  Daniel Kim (Hotboxcivic) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

sorry to bring about an old thread, but cutting the #2 line and adding a T piece is fine?

makes no diff i have a BOV does it?

thanks.
Marius Hainal
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Tuesday, July 04, 2006 - 03:57 pm, by:  Marius Hainal (Torque) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

9and 1/2 is not stock , is less than stock...

Mine shows ( completely stock vehicle if you ignore the wheels and now the gauge ) 12 and 1/3 to 12 and 1/2 . But it could be the tolerance of the gauge .

Daniel , yes , cut line no. 2 in the picture above and put in a T piece. I did mine a couple of weeks ago like that and it works fine.
Ryan Rankovic
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Tuesday, July 04, 2006 - 04:01 pm, by:  Ryan Rankovic (Ryan1j) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

so because your gauge shows 12.5 that means all soarers run 12.5 stock? EVEN though most people get around 9 - 9.5psi?

right
Marius Hainal
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Tuesday, July 04, 2006 - 04:10 pm, by:  Marius Hainal (Torque) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I was not trying to offend you kid ; I was just ASSUMING stock is 12 PSI from what I read on this board AND saw on my car ; if my assumption is wrong , I apologise.

Don't get too excited , I was only trying to help.
Daniel Kim
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Tuesday, July 04, 2006 - 04:12 pm, by:  Daniel Kim (Hotboxcivic) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

9 sounds about right for nissans, but for the 1JZ 12 is more like it?

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