Tuesday, March 25, 2008 - 11:16 pm, by: Garion Gibson(Gordy)
Ok i'm new to this whole soarer thing, i've only had mine for just over a month now and already i've spent a heap getting it fixed and all. but now that it has no problems i'm not convinced with it. I lose a stoplight drag to my mate in his VU manual ute 6 cylinder and i have tried everything possible to do a burnout but it just wont no matter what. Has anyone got any ideas as to why this is? Its a 1993 V8 auto with no mods to affect it in any way. by the way i'm not a hoon i just like to try different things and don't like getting laughed at by a commodore owner.
Wednesday, March 26, 2008 - 08:20 am, by: Mike Bradberry(Halflife)
G'day Garion. Welcome to Soarer Central and the wonderful world of questions and, thankfully answers. Have you got traction control? If you have, you will need to turn this off as it affects acceleration badly. It is in the on position as a default. There are many other things it could be however. Is the air filter in need of replacement? Is the cat getting a little clogged? Are the mufflers in good order? What about the spark plugs and maybe the timing belt? Perhaps the transmission needs a service. Hope some of this helps.
Ashley Leach DieHard South Australia GT Limited UZZ31 V8
Wednesday, March 26, 2008 - 04:55 pm, by: Ashley Leach(Ashlar)
Could depend on what tyres you have on. Ever since I fitted my Nankang 245's to the rear I can't smoke and phatties easily as it just grips and launches now (hold on tight). Yet with the Yokohama 235's... well lets just say they didn't last long.
But defiantly check the plugs etc. As that can cause power loss. Maybe get someone that knows a bit about Soarer's in your area to have a look. Show up to the next meet and ask a few questions, most of us are really helpful.
Also BFI the car and you should be able to get some more power out of it. Made a HUGE difference in mine. They are so choked factory... it should be a crime.
Wednesday, March 26, 2008 - 07:14 pm, by: Kim Hunt(Lxtasi)
i never lost to a 6 when mine was standard. i would try a few mods like intake and exhaust along with a full service. it will feel like a whole new car. if you still don't like losing to any commodore be it a v6 or v8 go ahead and supercharge you soarer like i did. best thing you'll ever do.
hope you get it sorted out cause i know how bad i feel when the car doesn't live up to one's standards and expectations.
Wednesday, March 26, 2008 - 09:36 pm, by: Scott Casey(V8soarer_1991)
the other week i beat a vt 5 ltr i got 2.25" cat back exhaust, BFI, 18" with 255 kuhmo KU19 "traction galore"
what i did when i got it was a really sluggish so i reset ECU and TRANS computer by warmin the car up (ECU does not tune when cold), pulled the 2 fuses, waited 1min or so, pulled 5 - 6 hard acceleration's to 60kph, 30 and 10 amp fuses
After that a lot better acceleration, responsiveness
Wednesday, March 26, 2008 - 10:13 pm, by: Garion Gibson(Gordy)
Yeah the transmission only has 2000k's on it. the timing belt, waterpump and sparkplugs have done lets say 300k's. there isn't many people that know much about soarers around here in fact there is only one mechanic in town that works on them and knows them. If i had Traction control how would i turn it off ? and the tires are really good almost new with two types off grip on them (don't know much about tyres just that they cost too much)
Ashley Leach DieHard South Australia GT Limited UZZ31 V8
Wednesday, March 26, 2008 - 10:37 pm, by: Ashley Leach(Ashlar)
An ECU reset is the way to go. Defiantly find a nice quiet road to do it on. Don't want to get "locked up" or anything. But it will make a huge difference. You'll need to do one after a BFI.
A full service with all fluids wouldn't be a bad thing to do either.
Traction control will have a button, just above the gear shifter if I remember correctly (I don't have T/C and with a Torsen LSD you don't need it)
Andrew Ferres DieHard WA '90 C-F Celsior V8, '84 Soarer V8, '91 Supra V8
Friday, March 28, 2008 - 07:32 am, by: Matthew Sharpe(Madmatt)
I am - my UZZ30 was much quicker than any 6 N/A 6 cylinder Falcodore, and it was totally stock. A UZZ30 can do 0-100 in around 7 seconds - most 3.8/4 litre N/A falcodores are around 8-9 - depending on if it was a Friday when they were put together and the guys just wanted to knock of early for a beer.
Even older V8 models were pretty easy to leave behind. Of course once they go from 5 litres to 5.4/5.7/6, you aren't going to keep up any more.
Anyhoo, I would suggest you start with a compression test as it could be just a tired engine. If the compression test comes up good, do the following basic maintenance jobs:
*New fuel filter *Make sure spark plugs are correct heat and platinum or iridium - replace if they are not *Replace HT leads if they are old *Replace distributor caps and rotors *Replace air filter if its at all dirty *Replace oil and filter with a quality 10w40 and OEM filter (really does make a small difference having good oil!) *Get transmission professionally serviced, including a power flush *Lose the snorkle and put in a BFI
If you still aren't having any luck, maybe your mates ute was a Monday morning car, or your Soarer is suffering the Japanese robotic equivalent of an Aussie Friday afternoon car.
Friday, March 28, 2008 - 12:11 pm, by: David Vaughan(Davidv)
A UZZ31 is also typically heavier than 1615 Kg, more like 1670 or so. In stock form my car was evidently only just keeping up with common falcodores in normal traffic away from the lights. No racing is needed to learn that, especially when you have available lights which offer a standing start to 100 Km/h road. Once the breathing was eased the car was a bit faster, and with a piggy-back chip distinctly so.
Resetting the ECU does not affect your car's top end, defiantly, definately or even as some might say, definitely. It affects responsiveness in the mid-range (if you do not already drive like a maniac). A while after you reset it, it will again adapt to your normal sedentary habits. It is not a bad idea to do it when you first get your car but of little practical value thereafter.
Tuesday, April 01, 2008 - 12:17 am, by: Kristian Bird(Kgb)
This was a rather large rant, so I chose to slim it down. [MASSIVE SECTION I CHOSE TO DELETE]
"Best case, you kill yourselves" - No, offensive, bad mannored. Seriously, don't say stuff like that to or about people.
From my personal experience, in my local city. Most nights there are quite a few people out lapping, draging off at the lights and what not. Not once have I heard of a person dieing from this, being in the area for, well my entire life, one would assume you'd hear about it. Yet, while the police were out badgering young people about their cars. My friend who is a barman and has to work late was beaten and stabbed by several people. But yes! Lets focus on people being "hoons" because that's where the real trouble is...
Not these harmless people who intentionally stab/shoot/mame/rape, no sir!
And yes, I know, I'm having a go at someone for having a go at someone... Hypocritical, kinda. But I believe I've still made a point.
This rant brought to you by: A touchy subject, late nights and caffine. Moderator, delete this if required. But I felt it had do be said.
Kristian Bird Tinkerer Victoria Soarer GT-L V8 UZZ31
Tuesday, April 01, 2008 - 12:21 am, by: Kristian Bird(Kgb)
Now for my happy post!
My UZZ31 has a BMC Pod Airfilter, from what I could find it was the best without going for something insanely expensive.
I'll hold a VX off the lights and pull away when the speeds start getting a bit higher. Tested it against my mates VX. But it wasn't like, bang seeya! It was more of an "i think i can, i think i can"
Mind you my exhaust is about as useful as a doodie flavoured lollie pop. The fella at exhaust bros asked me if it was a backyard job... On later inspection a few sections taken out were from a JZ.... lol epic fail.
Mine wont do a standing burnout most of the time, which i found to be somewhat pathetic. Seems if i turn the front wheels to full lock and then do it using less brake it works better.... But still harder to do then IN MY MUMS VN!
The cold start hack with the resistor to earth and what not helps quite a lot! I think for me, the burnout thing really comes down to tires. They're pretty massive, it's a lot of surface area to brake traction on.
I felt this was normal as i can almost keep up with a stock TT.... Being beaten by a 76 celica, now that was epic fail!!! (Engine was not a 76 celica engine, but I didn't know that damn it!)
Ashley Leach DieHard South Australia GT Limited UZZ31 V8
Tuesday, April 01, 2008 - 09:47 am, by: David Vaughan(Davidv)
"brake traction"?
There I am, a couple of threads distant, trying to remind people that to stop a car you use brakes, not breaks, and here we go with someone who wants to put the brakes on when really they are trying to lose it! If something is broken, is that a past tense of braking? Who brakes at snooker?
Ashley Leach DieHard South Australia GT Limited UZZ31 V8
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