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Stuart Smith
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NEW SOUTH WALES
SC400 V8 GT LIMITED Proper Prior Preparation Prevents Piss Poor Performance

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Tuesday, November 18, 2008 - 06:19 pm, by:  Stuart Smith (Leader428) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I pestered Neil for 3 Months for these headers, they arrived last week.
They have now been installed along with Lukey 2.25" straight through S/Steel mufflers, twin 2.25" S/S system, S/S merge/cross over and metal cats.
While it was up on the hoist I also replaced the engine mounts and gear box mount, they were separated, as expected.
The power steering reservoir return line did not survive the shifting of the engine to replace the engine mounts and it had to be replaced as well.
It sounds great, doesn't drone under load, and now with the BFI upgrade completed, is one less item on my list.



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Edit - I should also add that I also fitted new oxygen sensors, they were only $59.90 each.
Karl Baladovciv
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ACT
UZZ31

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Tuesday, November 18, 2008 - 06:28 pm, by:  Karl Baladovciv (S_t_a_r_3_3) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

how much were the headers? if you dont mind me asking..
Mike Beck
Goo Roo
New Zealand
Soarer Limited UZZ31 V8

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Tuesday, November 18, 2008 - 08:30 pm, by:  Mike Beck (Gold_40gt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Very Nice Stu!

Should make for a perfect system.

I actually still need to get headers for my system.

I'm getting the two resonators I put in taken out so it has a bit more grunt to the sound on Thursday - I look forward to that! :-)
Stuart Smith
TryHard
NEW SOUTH WALES
SC400 V8 GT LIMITED Proper Prior Preparation Prevents Piss Poor Performance

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Tuesday, November 18, 2008 - 09:03 pm, by:  Stuart Smith (Leader428) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Karl Baladovciv wrote on Tuesday, November 18, 2008 - 06:28 pm:

how much




Karl,
I don't want to steal Neils thunder, and he is a great bloke, just contact him direct, you will not be disappointed.
Brett Harrison
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QLD
JZZ30

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Tuesday, November 18, 2008 - 10:14 pm, by:  Brett Harrison (Bretto) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Whats the difference under foot ?
Stuart Smith
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SC400 V8 GT LIMITED Proper Prior Preparation Prevents Piss Poor Performance

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Wednesday, November 19, 2008 - 06:26 pm, by:  Stuart Smith (Leader428) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Brett Harrison wrote on Tuesday, November 18, 2008 - 10:14 pm:

Whats the difference under foot ?



Brett,
The difference is more than I expected, maybe I am cynical but I didn't expect much more than a bit of V8 rumble.
I should have re-set the ECU because of the new 02 sensors but I was too busy dealing with the leaking power steer hose they broke and the flat battery, I was just glad to drive out of there.
The difference is remarkable!
Mike Beck
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New Zealand
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Wednesday, November 19, 2008 - 09:05 pm, by:  Mike Beck (Gold_40gt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeah, even doing a cat back system in my 31, you can easily feel your back being pushed into the seat as well as the car rearing up a fraction more.

I look forward to what headers an no cats will be like! (Legal in NZ)

Must be amazing...

A shame Stuart that all that fancy pipping and work is under the car where you dont get much of a chance to see it!
Joe Russell
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Marlborough
4.0 V8 GT-L

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Tuesday, November 25, 2008 - 06:42 am, by:  Joe Russell (Joe_r) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I thought we had to have cats in 91 or later cars Mike? If not I'm totally stoked.
Mike Beck
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New Zealand
Soarer Limited UZZ31 V8

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Tuesday, November 25, 2008 - 09:54 am, by:  Mike Beck (Gold_40gt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hmmm I think theres some talk about it but theres nothing hard on it or enforcing it and wont be for years...

So mine are going out and off to a metal scrap yard when the time comes.

They just dull the sound in my opinion.
Matthew Sharpe
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North Island
JZZ31

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Tuesday, November 25, 2008 - 12:02 pm, by:  Matthew Sharpe (Madmatt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Last plans I read about were only to apply to "new" imports, and will not be retroactively enforced. If you car is registered prior to the law instatement date, you will not be required to make your vehicle comply. I figure the cats are so old now they probably aren't doing anyone any good anyway, so out they go.
Mike Beck
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New Zealand
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Tuesday, November 25, 2008 - 02:36 pm, by:  Mike Beck (Gold_40gt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Matthew Sharpe wrote on Tuesday, November 25, 2008 - 12:02 pm:

I figure the cats are so old now they probably aren't doing anyone any good anyway, so out they go.




Exactly.
Joe Russell
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Marlborough
4.0 V8 GT-L

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Tuesday, November 25, 2008 - 03:53 pm, by:  Joe Russell (Joe_r) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yea sounds good, bye-bye cats I say. I remember seeing those 15-year old cats on a post and they were totally rooted...
Mike Beck
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Tuesday, November 25, 2008 - 07:22 pm, by:  Mike Beck (Gold_40gt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Its interesting though.

On my Green UZZ30, the cat matrix was intact, same with my Celsior and my UZZ31 I have at the moment. All on cars ranging from 16-18 years!

I think their efficiency decreases over time but they were still flowing okay, I have seen some shocking ones where they have collapsed and had carbon built up around them. Nasty!

I'm going to take my cats out when its time to get headers, I feel its a better way to go about it.

CANT WAIT! :-)
Mike Beck
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Tuesday, November 25, 2008 - 07:38 pm, by:  Mike Beck (Gold_40gt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Here's my Soarer, with it's cat back system lightly powering up the drive. To my ears it's a good sound that can only get better with a set of headers....

Definitely chuffed with it.

Brett Harrison
TryHard
QLD
JZZ30

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Wednesday, November 26, 2008 - 10:49 am, by:  Brett Harrison (Bretto) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Guys will soon be putting a set of extractors on a v8 soarer as well, I will do before and after dyno to see difference.
Recently did 1uzfe engine conversion into 76 mercedes, although had to use crown headers, and has killed the performance.
Andrew Ferres
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WA
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Wednesday, November 26, 2008 - 01:34 pm, by:  Andrew Ferres (Peewee) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The Crown headers only kill upper end performance (>5000rpm).
Down low you won't notice much of a difference.
But you can definitely feel the difference in the top end.
Joe Russell
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Wednesday, November 26, 2008 - 03:48 pm, by:  Joe Russell (Joe_r) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sounds nice Mike! yea I want to do the same, take the cats out when i get the headers, remove the cat-back and get some new rear mufflers. Who did your cat-back system again?
Brett Harrison
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JZZ30

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Wednesday, November 26, 2008 - 04:52 pm, by:  Brett Harrison (Bretto) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Andrew, I thought that to be the case as well. Hence I didn't have to much concern about the crown headers. The car actually revs out quite well, its just dead down low. Recently had a full diagnostics done, and supposedly ok. Just about all ignition electronics have been replaced. So a couple of days at efi performance, and the conclusion we made was the poor header design was killing power everywhere. It feels like your towing a trailer.
Andrew Ferres
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WA
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Wednesday, November 26, 2008 - 04:58 pm, by:  Andrew Ferres (Peewee) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I found it to be the opposite when I went from Crown headers to full extractors.

No noticable change in the bottom end, but my god did the top end enjoy revving out so much more.
Brett Harrison
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JZZ30

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Wednesday, November 26, 2008 - 05:52 pm, by:  Brett Harrison (Bretto) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Andrew, I'm not saying I'm right, just drew that conclusion from process of elimination.
When I say revs out ok, well it revs out not that its making any power up there.
But besides that its just dead until 3000 rpm, it literally can't spin the wheels even in the wet, and it has a shorter diff ratio than donor celsior.

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