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Sean Routledge
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Victoria
V8 Limited

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Friday, November 28, 2008 - 09:20 pm, by:  Sean Routledge (Stircrazy) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hey all,

If the compression ratio is down a bit on the V8, how can it be returned to its former glory?

My Soarer's having one of its "bad days" today.
Really annoys me, some days it feels like it's brand new and others it feels like it's 12 yrs old....which is fair enough.

It seems some days after roughly an hour of driving it starts to feel more sluggish. Would this be because it's heated up? Is this fairly common? (to become more sluggish after a while of driving)

Thanks...
Scott Casey
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nsw
soarer v8

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Saturday, November 29, 2008 - 11:16 am, by:  Scott Casey (V8soarer_1991) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

the car tunes to how you drive.

when cruzin around town or on the highway i find my car delays the downshifts when i put the foot down abit.

when i give it some neddies after a while the car fells perky, shifts down quicker and the throttle response increases.

temp plays a big part in the way the car drives aswell. 30 degree day (sluggish) to a 18 - 20 degree day (more spirited)

the computer could be pulling some timing out depending on radiator temp
Mike Beck
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Saturday, November 29, 2008 - 01:40 pm, by:  Mike Beck (Gold_40gt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I also find this happens, I think its alot to do with what mood your in when you drive it and what you have been driving before taking your soarer for a drive.

Go test drive a middle of the road car and you will enjoy your soarer 10x more till you get used to it again. I often think, 'oh dear this interior has so many noises, oh it's hard over bumps!, its slow ohh...' But when you get into another 'regular' Japanese car you quickly discover how comfortable and fast the Soarer is compared.

Truly great car...


Speaking of the Compression ratio, has anyone raised their 10.0 CR in a 1991 V8 to a slightly higher one like 10.4/5 like used in the later model 1UZ higher CR engines + have it tuned? I wonder if that's worth perusing for a bit more power/torque, whatever.
Sean Routledge
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Saturday, November 29, 2008 - 01:50 pm, by:  Sean Routledge (Stircrazy) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeah, it just gets me how some days i'll put my foot flat from stationary and wheelspin, then other days it's like a slug to around 3,000rpm where it then feels normal....and no wheelspin.

I tend to drive pretty hard the majority of the time, that's why I think it has nothing to do with me.
Sean Routledge
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Victoria
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Saturday, November 29, 2008 - 01:53 pm, by:  Sean Routledge (Stircrazy) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'll drive like an absolute nutter for a while at some point today and see if anything changes...thanks
Brett Harrison
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JZZ30

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Saturday, November 29, 2008 - 04:45 pm, by:  Brett Harrison (Bretto) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

haahhahahaha absolute nutter.

Sean what your experiencing is most likely as scott says, coolant temp increasing, with results in reduced ignition advance. And partly heat soak and increased inlet air temps.

The fact your car will spin the wheels and get along well when cold, says that the engine is largely heathly. So maybe look at getting it to run cooler. I'm trying to get a 1uz moving that feels like a dog the whole time regardless of temp, and thats really frustrating.

Sean Routledge
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Saturday, November 29, 2008 - 06:19 pm, by:  Sean Routledge (Stircrazy) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

aah, that's good to hear.

I drive under 2000rpm until the temp reads one bar below half way, and i've never seen it go above that point. But i'm assuming you mean the coolant temp continues to rise as I continue to drive. Is that correct?
Brett Harrison
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Saturday, November 29, 2008 - 07:02 pm, by:  Brett Harrison (Bretto) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If your temp stays one bar below, all sounds good.
Although I never find standard temp gauges to be very sensitive.
I prefer aftermarket temp gauges that can show small deviations in temperature.
Sean Routledge
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Victoria
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Saturday, November 29, 2008 - 09:10 pm, by:  Sean Routledge (Stircrazy) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Just went for an enthusiastic drive and it did feel better...maybe i'd slipped into granny mode the past few days? Thanks for everyone's input.
Gary Redman
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UZZ31

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Tuesday, December 02, 2008 - 12:02 pm, by:  Gary Redman (Gary) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Just did a compression check on mine and averaged 190/195psi. That's plenty of compression so no need to go chasing 10.5:1. I don't think you would benefit much from all the added cost and work outlay if you didn't do work on the intakes as well.
Geordie Smith
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Saturday, December 27, 2008 - 01:14 pm, by:  Geordie Smith (Big_george) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Maybe a cheap tweak you could do would be to try and lay your hands on a thermostat that opens at a slightly lower temperature.

There are also ways of tricking the coolant temp sensor into thinking it's running a little cold so you get more timing and a bit more fuel.

The best thing my car responds to is a fresh tank full of E10. Also seemed to go a lot better after the coil(s) and ignition leads got replaced.

I tend to look at the car though and think, why dabble with something that was made perfect.
Sean Routledge
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Sunday, December 28, 2008 - 05:01 pm, by:  Sean Routledge (Stircrazy) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I've put it down to the intake drawing in hot air from the engine when it heats up.
Must get a top cover for the BFI...cheers
Mike Beck
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Monday, December 29, 2008 - 01:03 pm, by:  Mike Beck (Gold_40gt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Geordie Smith wrote on Saturday, December 27, 2008 - 01:14 pm:

I tend to look at the car though and think, why dabble with something that was made perfect.




It may have been perfect in 1991 but today there is plenty room for improvement.

The headers and intake are NOT perfect for example, really let the car down. So its a good ideal to change parts on these, there is so much you can do with a good budget.
Sean Routledge
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Monday, December 29, 2008 - 05:10 pm, by:  Sean Routledge (Stircrazy) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

have you done a full BFI Mike?
Mike Beck
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Monday, December 29, 2008 - 06:10 pm, by:  Mike Beck (Gold_40gt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I will when my engine bay goes back together in the new year.

Top, side covers etc.

Will be nice and sporty then!

Why do you ask Sean?
Sean Routledge
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Victoria
V8 Limited

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Monday, December 29, 2008 - 09:59 pm, by:  Sean Routledge (Stircrazy) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Just wondering if my problem will persist after i've put the top cover on...

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