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Oliver Mark Drews
Tinkerer
Negros Oriental
Soarer V8

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Reg: 11-2008

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Friday, December 12, 2008 - 10:39 pm, by:  Oliver Mark Drews (Mr2crazybyong) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

guys,

i need help, i've been driving around, everything was normal until the car started to stutter like a cylinder was not firing plus rough idle then heavy white smoke coming from the exhaust. and very high fuel consumption, 10L in just a few minutes of driving.. what could be the problem guys? there is a japanese warning message saying i have an engine electrical problem, i tried to get the code by jumpering the diagnostic port but only the O/D light keeps on blinking steadily without any pattern. I have a japanese soarer. i really need help urgent since i am not in my home town. i couldn't drive home like this. thanks guys.
Sean Routledge
TryHard
Victoria
V8 Limited

Posts: 365
Reg: 07-2008

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Saturday, December 13, 2008 - 11:42 am, by:  Sean Routledge (Stircrazy) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Maybe the ECU? That's just a guess...i'm not entirely mechanical myself.
Oliver Mark Drews
Tinkerer
Negros Oriental
Soarer V8

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Reg: 11-2008

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Saturday, December 13, 2008 - 09:26 pm, by:  Oliver Mark Drews (Mr2crazybyong) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

been switching the coils to spare ones and they seem to be ok.. i think the injectors are clogged up. could this be the cause? ill be popping them out tomorrow to clean them.. i hope this is the cause..
Dave Rose
DieHard
wa
uzz31 v8

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Reg: 03-2007

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Saturday, December 13, 2008 - 09:36 pm, by:  Dave Rose (Sand_groper) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sounds like water in the petrol? was it after filling up.
Adam Peterson
Goo Roo
Western Australia
Supercharged & Intercooled V8 coming

Posts: 1859
Reg: 04-2006

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Sunday, December 14, 2008 - 07:37 am, by:  Adam Peterson (President) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

disconnect the battery for one minute and see if that does anything.

It could be anything from:
Bad fuel, dead plugs, crimped leads, d!cky sensors to the distributor.
Run some 98Octane + fuel additive in it and see how it goes.
David Boyle
Tinkerer
NSW
Soarer GT limited

Posts: 22
Reg: 05-2009

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Friday, June 26, 2009 - 12:15 pm, by:  David Boyle (Amokzar) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i have a similar problem too. had a rough idle which was fixed with new leads but i do have white smoke coming out my exhaust and the distinct smell of unburnt fuel, which goes away once the car warms right up and is driven.
anyone got any ideas?

Cheers

would like to add its running V power and has just had spitfire run through it (was happening before running the spitfire through it)
Damian Ware
DieHard
Victoria
UZZ32

Posts: 972
Reg: 10-2005

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Friday, June 26, 2009 - 01:06 pm, by:  Damian Ware (Frozenpod) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sounds like plugs, leads or a possible coil on the way out.

Try disconnecting 1 lead at a time whilst at idle and see if there is any difference.

If there isn't any then you know that particular plug lead cylinder has a problem.
David Boyle
Tinkerer
NSW
Soarer GT limited

Posts: 24
Reg: 05-2009

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Friday, June 26, 2009 - 02:20 pm, by:  David Boyle (Amokzar) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i have just had the plugs and leads replaced could possibly be a ECU problem apparently but i am not sure how to go about testing that without spending a large sum of money on a gut feeling
Michael Toet
Tinkerer
Vic
V8

Posts: 14
Reg: 06-2009

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Friday, June 26, 2009 - 02:27 pm, by:  Michael Toet (Myke31) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Is there a loss of power? Is it running like it is on less than all cylinders. Does the cat overheat (or is it check engine) light come on? Find a couple of coil packs to swap over for a test. Or borrow one coil pack and test one at a time on your car.
David Boyle
Tinkerer
NSW
Soarer GT limited

Posts: 25
Reg: 05-2009

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Friday, June 26, 2009 - 02:38 pm, by:  David Boyle (Amokzar) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

well i cant tell for certain about loss of power as only just got the car and don't really drive it much but it seems to run a bit better when the car is cold, from what i have seen the cat isn't glowing, no errors come up, previous owner has changed coil packs and spark plugs and i have changed the leads
Michael Toet
Tinkerer
Vic
V8

Posts: 15
Reg: 06-2009

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Friday, June 26, 2009 - 03:00 pm, by:  Michael Toet (Myke31) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If a coil pack was the issue you would know the loss of power. The car is pretty much un-drivable. It will struggle to get up hills, especially if you have to stop and start on a hill.
Ty Mackay
DieHard
WA
Soarer TT 1jz-gte

Posts: 600
Reg: 01-2009

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Friday, June 26, 2009 - 03:39 pm, by:  Ty Mackay (Duo89) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

this sounds like the problem im having....

system eletrical error
car shudders and missfires like crazy
white smoke
i had oil in my chambers though..

turned out to be worn pistons for me
David Boyle
Tinkerer
NSW
Soarer GT limited

Posts: 26
Reg: 05-2009

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Friday, June 26, 2009 - 03:42 pm, by:  David Boyle (Amokzar) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

it will occasionally struggle up hills not to an un-drivable degree just one particular hill it puts out the same power as my Suzuki swift (1.3L carby)so i may still look into the coil packs.

Cheers for your help Michael, Much appreciated!
Damian Ware
DieHard
Victoria
UZZ32

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Friday, June 26, 2009 - 10:11 pm, by:  Damian Ware (Frozenpod) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

David it could be the ECU but it sounds more likely to be a spark problem.
David Boyle
Tinkerer
NSW
Soarer GT limited

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Reg: 05-2009

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Sunday, June 28, 2009 - 10:55 am, by:  David Boyle (Amokzar) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

thanks Damian, i have had new spark plugs and leads put in and a receipt from where the coil packs have been changed recently (have not had the car that long) is it possible that the ECU has learnt to put more fuel into the cylinders as it had been running with stuffed leads for god knows how long and was causing a cough in the engine
Rob Rojo
Goo Roo
NSW
Soarer TT & UZZ31 & another UZZ31

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Thursday, July 02, 2009 - 09:04 pm, by:  Rob Rojo (Rob_tt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Maybe Stuffed MAF sensor, try unplugging it and see how it runs.
David Boyle
Tinkerer
NSW
Soarer GT limited

Posts: 29
Reg: 05-2009

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Thursday, July 02, 2009 - 09:47 pm, by:  David Boyle (Amokzar) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

thanks rob, will do mate.
would that also explain it running great cold (other then high fuel consumption) and loosing performance once it has warmed up? feels like it will only go half as hard once its warmed up
Rob Rojo
Goo Roo
NSW
Soarer TT & UZZ31 & another UZZ31

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Thursday, July 02, 2009 - 10:13 pm, by:  Rob Rojo (Rob_tt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It could definitely change your fuel economy as well as bring up the Electrical error as well as run very rough.
If you unplug the MAF sensor with the engine running and it does not stall or idles smoothly when disconnected it is very likely its stuffed.
David Boyle
Tinkerer
NSW
Soarer GT limited

Posts: 30
Reg: 05-2009

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Thursday, July 02, 2009 - 11:33 pm, by:  David Boyle (Amokzar) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

ok rob will look into this tomorrow. thanks so much for the help by the way :-)
Rich O'neil
TryHard
Queensland
90 Celsior

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Friday, July 03, 2009 - 05:56 pm, by:  Rich O'neil (Kiwiinaus) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The white smoke is a sign that you could have power steer fluid going into your engine , I think that the Soarer has the P/S speed up valve on the side of the pump just like the Celsiors , if so it almost certain that's where the white smoke is coming from , the "O" ring in the valve wears and then with engine vacuum on the other side it sucks the P/S fluid straight into the engine .
It's a device that really isn't needed so just remove the valve , weld up the end and put it back , problem sorted for all time .

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