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Jovica Galovic
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Wednesday, July 18, 2007 - 06:01 pm, by:  Jovica Galovic (Gryphn) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi All,
I changed the tensioner on the soarer yesterday, after finishing that I noticed that the harmonic balancer had play in it.

Today i find the damn thing has moved back about 5 mm and the belt is slipping straight off * refer photo.

What do i need to fix it by the weekend.


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Peter Nitschke
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Wednesday, July 18, 2007 - 08:07 pm, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It may have split. :-(

http://soarercentral.com/sc-forum/messages/51875/82730.html
Jovica Galovic
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Wednesday, July 18, 2007 - 08:25 pm, by:  Jovica Galovic (Gryphn) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Peter can you elaborate a little further.

Also whats the best way to fix it new balancer or is there more parts than just the balancer ?
Peter Nitschke
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Wednesday, July 18, 2007 - 08:47 pm, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

As far as I know, it's a matter of replacing the balancer, but it's not easy to get off as the bolt (or nut?) that holds it on is done up extremely tight.
Jovica Galovic
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Wednesday, July 18, 2007 - 08:49 pm, by:  Jovica Galovic (Gryphn) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

any ideas what the balancer is gonna cost, undoing the nut wont be an issue, i have a rattle gun that would undo dumptruck wheel nuts
Peter Nitschke
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Wednesday, July 18, 2007 - 09:22 pm, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

There is a mention of prices in that thread. :-)
Jovica Galovic
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Wednesday, July 18, 2007 - 11:02 pm, by:  Jovica Galovic (Gryphn) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

eeeeeeeek thats expensive, hope CMI have it in stock.
Matthew Sharpe
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Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 07:16 am, by:  Matthew Sharpe (Madmatt) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Might pay to try and find a good second hand one.
Tai Johnsen
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Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 08:59 am, by:  Tai Johnsen (Privatejohnsen) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi mate,

I bought a new one for $300 ish as i thought mine was causing a vibration.

It didn't fix the vibration and now I have a spare. Off a 94 V8 with low k's.

Hows $100 posted sound?

TJ
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Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 11:07 am, by:  Matthew Sharpe (Madmatt) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Tai Johnsen wrote on Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 08:59 am:

It didn't fix the vibration




Failing main or thrust bearing?
Jovica Galovic
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Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 11:26 am, by:  Jovica Galovic (Gryphn) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

hi tai
thank you but i need it today

hunting the wreckers in my breaks so i can pick up after i get out of the office
Jovica Galovic
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Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 12:16 pm, by:  Jovica Galovic (Gryphn) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

quiccccccccccck can someone give me a part number for the harmonic balancer??????
Tai Johnsen
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Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 01:43 pm, by:  Tai Johnsen (Privatejohnsen) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Matthew Sharpe wrote on Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 11:07 am:



Failing main or thrust bearing?




I hope not....

Jovica, I think i still have the bag that the balancer came in, but it's at home... I finish work at 4pm. If you can wait I might be able to get it for you this afternoon.
Jovica Galovic
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Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 02:01 pm, by:  Jovica Galovic (Gryphn) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Tai I found the part number
13407-50030 DAMPER SUB-ASSY, CRANKSHAFT
but its a 15 day wait and $308Aud, I cannot be without my car for 15 days.
Tai Johnsen
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Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 02:33 pm, by:  Tai Johnsen (Privatejohnsen) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'll have a look for it tonight and take a pic of it for you if you want...
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Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 02:35 pm, by:  Tai Johnsen (Privatejohnsen) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

oh yeah, undoing is a pain because the rattle guns usually foul on the radiator and fan..

Not a fun job.
Jovica Galovic
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Saturday, July 21, 2007 - 09:05 pm, by:  Jovica Galovic (Gryphn) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

tai you have an email
Ashley Leach
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Sunday, July 22, 2007 - 10:08 pm, by:  Ashley Leach (Ashlar) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You'll shred many a fan belt if you run it like that for too long.
Mark Ribbans
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Saturday, July 28, 2007 - 06:10 pm, by:  Mark Ribbans (V8gtsoarer) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I cracked mine by using an extended breaker bar on the nut that hit the concrete floor and used the starter motor to turn the motor over, worked first time (the rattle gun didn't).

You obviously want to disable the ignition if connected so it doesn't try and start.
Ashley Leach
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Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 03:20 pm, by:  Ashley Leach (Ashlar) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hey Jo, how did you end up going with it?
I've got a couple of questions for you:

Did you notice any noise or vibration before it went?
Any loss of power?
Have you shredded your belt yet?
Jovica Galovic
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Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 03:50 pm, by:  Jovica Galovic (Gryphn) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ashley,

Tai Johnsen was more than kind enough to post me his old one which was in rather good nick. It went on no probs.

No didnt shred belt but it smelt rather bad from the friction as the balancer sat back approx 5 mm and the belt wanted otherwise.
There was no loss of power but a there was a hell of a squeal as the belt rubbed on various parts of the engine if the throttle was applied in a manly fashion (which is how ive driven my car for the last 4 yrs).

There was however a engine electrical warning that would pop up every now and then ( im gathering it was the alternator screaming for help) It has ceased to come up since the "new" balancer was put on.


Oh and to take off the old balancer was a piece of cake no need to remove anything but the belt.

One 22mm socket and breaker bar attached , sat it on a piece of wood on the concrete and cranked - came off 2nd crank (pulled the ecu fuse) . To return it i just used a old belt wound it around the balancer over the idler pulley and pulled - then had a helper tighten the bolt voila the car purrs.
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Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 09:56 pm, by:  Ashley Leach (Ashlar) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I only ask cause I think mine has a bit of a wobble in it. So I might have to do mine soon. I'll keep an eye on it though and buy a new one if I have to. Sounds like a lot of work so I might just have to get someone to do it for me. :-(

So warning as of yet. I'm getting noise, but it could just be my noisy Yokohama's wearing... Hard to tell when I'm driving.
Jovica Galovic
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Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 10:20 am, by:  Jovica Galovic (Gryphn) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Its not a lot of work, 40 minutes to swap it over and thats with a break.

If you suspect it order it from toyota ASAP cause it takes 15 days to come in and Peter Kittle is cheaper than CMI by 9 dollars.

Part Number is 13407-50030

PS the noise only comes on if you stab the throttle cause you are straining the rubber dampner
Ashley Leach
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Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 11:32 am, by:  Ashley Leach (Ashlar) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well I might enlist your help! :-)

Cheers for the part number. I'll order one now... Oh and I need a new belt as well, I shredded the one that's on there now :-(
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Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 12:19 pm, by:  Jovica Galovic (Gryphn) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

No probs Ashley will gladly help,

The belt is 6pk2275 from memory but dont quote me about 54 bucks from repco

Shoot me a PM when you need me

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