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Christian Somerville
TryHard
South Australia
UZZ31 V8

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Reg: 03-2009

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Sunday, September 20, 2009 - 09:28 pm, by:  Christian Somerville (Csomers) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hey guys, I am doing a BFI setup to my V8 soarer in a week.
I have been looking at many different setups and am going to go for the stage 3 (face cut out) setup.
I was wondering if anyone sells complete kits, I found a couple on Ebay for $80+, so will probably just go to the local hardware store and get some material and spend a day on it myself.

Any suggestions and help would be great, thanks guys.
Here is that ebay link:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Lexus-SC400-SC300-Soarer-BFI-3-3-Air-Intake-Kit-GAS_W0QQcmdZViewItemQ Q_trksidZp3286Q2em63Q2el1177QQhashZitem4399e51381QQitemZ290344735617QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPart sQ5fAccessories
Peter Nitschke
Junk Filterer
South Australia
UZZ30 UZZ31

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Monday, September 21, 2009 - 02:35 am, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If you like the idea of buying those kits, I have some really good petrol for only $92.50 per litre.

Do it yourself!

:-)
David Vaughan
Goo Roo
NSW
IS300

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Monday, September 21, 2009 - 07:20 am, by:  David Vaughan (Davidv) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You have to ship him the petrol as well Peter. Only US$30/litre for that. :-)
Mike Bradberry
Goo Roo
Queensland
V8 UnLimited

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Monday, September 21, 2009 - 07:41 am, by:  Mike Bradberry (Halflife) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Christian, ignore those peons and simply type BFI into 'search' and you will find a number of ways to do it yourself for very little money.
Not worth buying something you can manufacture from corflute (the stuff which is used for real estate signs) for example.
Christian Somerville
TryHard
South Australia
UZZ31 V8

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Monday, September 21, 2009 - 09:45 am, by:  Christian Somerville (Csomers) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeah have done the search, will just go to the hardware store next week and get some material and have a go at it.
Christian Somerville
TryHard
South Australia
UZZ31 V8

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Wednesday, September 23, 2009 - 01:03 pm, by:  Christian Somerville (Csomers) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Any tips before I go ahead and cut my air box open?
Does anyone know where to get the rubber seal from (which goes around the edge of the top piece and/or around the cutout of the air box as I want mine to look good and work well, cheers!
Tom Richards
TryHard
nsw
V8

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Wednesday, September 23, 2009 - 01:46 pm, by:  Tom Richards (Tomr) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

buy the stainless steel egg cups at woolies, or get a pce of 90mm pvc. heat the end over a bbq and push it over a bottle/flagon to flare it out. cut to length,and paint black. cut 90mm hole in front of airbox and glue in place.

The flared end makes it look professional.

I think the extra opening gives the max improvement. Not sure if boxing it in gives much more, plus it hides the "good look"
Mike Bradberry
Goo Roo
Queensland
V8 UnLimited

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Wednesday, September 23, 2009 - 04:09 pm, by:  Mike Bradberry (Halflife) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Christian, if you want the best from your BFI, forget the egg cup number as I think it is only for looks. As the best BFI's exclude warm air as much as possible, just take the front of the air box out all together and close in the top and the sides so as to not allow engine bay air in.
There you have it. My $1.24 worth.
David Vaughan
Goo Roo
NSW
IS300

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Wednesday, September 23, 2009 - 05:05 pm, by:  David Vaughan (Davidv) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Consider using insulated rubber (reflective one side, sticky the other) from Clark Rubber, if not for all the panels at least to seal up gaps to keep out warm air.
Christian Somerville
TryHard
South Australia
UZZ31 V8

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Wednesday, September 23, 2009 - 05:25 pm, by:  Christian Somerville (Csomers) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeah doing it Mikes way and will be going to clark rubber to get some material.
Is polypropylene good to use as the cover and on the sides to block off engine heat? and does anyone know where I can get the rubber seals from?
Thanks for your help!
Michael Toet
Tinkerer
Vic
V8

Posts: 98
Reg: 06-2009

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Saturday, October 17, 2009 - 02:03 pm, by:  Michael Toet (Myke31) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Can you still get the egg cups? I looked at a couple of places and I can't find them. Anything local to Mt Waverley would be good.
Christian Somerville
TryHard
South Australia
UZZ31 V8 LTD

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Saturday, October 17, 2009 - 03:18 pm, by:  Christian Somerville (Csomers) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeah pretty hard to get
Michael Toet
Tinkerer
Vic
V8

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Saturday, October 17, 2009 - 03:53 pm, by:  Michael Toet (Myke31) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Oh, bugger, if anyone is doing their shopping and sees these please post it up (especially if in the eastern suburbs of Melb).

Thanks.
Peter Williams
Tinkerer
Victoria
V8

Posts: 37
Reg: 01-2009

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Saturday, October 17, 2009 - 04:05 pm, by:  Peter Williams (Skeeta) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Michael, I look for them whenever I go away on hols or for work, so scratch Whyalla SA and Coolangata QLD off your list.

By the way, that was post number 99 for you.
Tom Richards
TryHard
nsw
V8

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Saturday, October 17, 2009 - 08:03 pm, by:  Tom Richards (Tomr) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i purchased the egg cups from woolies a few yrs back. as an alternative get a pce of 90-100mm pvc pipe, heat one end over a bbq and push that end over a large bottle or wine flagon to flare the end. cut to length, paint black and fit to hole cut in front of airbox to suit. will look great.
Mike Bradberry
Goo Roo
Queensland
V8 UnLimited

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Saturday, October 17, 2009 - 09:02 pm, by:  Mike Bradberry (Halflife) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm unsure why some of you guys are bent on getting egg cups. If you are going to insulate from heat you will not see them. Just cut the whole front out and be done with it.
David Vaughan
Goo Roo
NSW
IS300

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Saturday, October 17, 2009 - 09:22 pm, by:  David Vaughan (Davidv) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

So, Mike, you would not be the person who builds an electronic circuit and puts it in a transparent box so you can see it working.

Michael Toet
Tinkerer
Vic
V8

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Saturday, October 17, 2009 - 09:55 pm, by:  Michael Toet (Myke31) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

And, post 100, woo-hoo.

Egg cups because I am doing it a bit at a time and not insulating right away and it is neater and easier than a single big hole. Plus I figured the egg cups would be easier to find, and if I don't like it I can make the hole bigger later.

Tom, do you have any pics of a setup like that? Sounds interesting, but maybe harder than a big hole.

Thanks,
Mike
Tom Richards
TryHard
nsw
V8

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Tuesday, October 20, 2009 - 10:41 am, by:  Tom Richards (Tomr) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

michael, if you heat the pvc and push it onto a flagon, the end will start to flare out.heat push heat push until you get the desired flare. it is easy and looks good when painted black. trace the pvc onto the front of the airbox and cut or drill out. wrap a bit of sand paper around a bottle/can and use it on the hole to get a smooth finish and tight fit on the pvc. Cut pvc to length desired and glue in. easy and you have a 100mm flared inlet sticking out ~25mm? from the aibox for "no cost"
Michael Toet
TryHard
Vic
V8

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Tuesday, October 20, 2009 - 11:24 am, by:  Michael Toet (Myke31) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks Tom.
Steven Anderson
TryHard
NSW
UZZ31 Manual

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Thursday, October 22, 2009 - 08:13 pm, by:  Steven Anderson (Cusscuss) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Michael Toet wrote on Saturday, October 17, 2009 - 09:55 pm:

Egg cups because I am doing it a bit at a time and not insulating right away and it is neater and easier than a single big hole




wat?

Modifying the airbox is just 4 cuts with a jigsaw and a bit of filing to smooth out the edges, thats it. Egg cups are completely unnecessary.
Peter Williams
Tinkerer
Victoria
V8

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Thursday, October 22, 2009 - 08:40 pm, by:  Peter Williams (Skeeta) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Not if you've got a boiled egg
Mike Beck
Goo Roo
New Zealand
4.0GT UZZ30

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Thursday, October 22, 2009 - 09:10 pm, by:  Mike Beck (Gold_40gt) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Steven Anderson wrote on Thursday, October 22, 2009 - 08:13 pm:

Modifying the airbox is just 4 cuts with a jigsaw and a bit of filing to smooth out the edges, thats it. Egg cups are completely unnecessary.




Exactly, you want a nice big cutout of the front of the airbox, for maximum air flow.

The 3 stainless egg cups is a waste of time.

If you want it to look nice, spend some time cutting the whole on the air box nicely, then sand and file the rough edge down.
Matthew Sharpe
Goo Roo
North Island
JZZ31

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Friday, October 23, 2009 - 06:26 am, by:  Matthew Sharpe (Madmatt) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Having the eggcups there does decrease induction noise a lot, if you are like me and just find excess induction noise annoying.
Mike Beck
Goo Roo
New Zealand
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Friday, October 23, 2009 - 12:41 pm, by:  Mike Beck (Gold_40gt) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeah that is a good point if you not into the increased sound.

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