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Ali Saeed
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Sunday, May 30, 2010 - 01:23 am, by:  Ali Saeed (Ali) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

so there hasnt been any signs of overheating as such, but the "low coolant" warning pops up time to time. then today smoke from the engine bay. looks like boiled coolant and smells like it too. the "steam" is coming from the place circled in red. and i can see water bubbling. at first i thought it might be a blocked radiator, because the heater wasnt working very well at all. should i just look for a 2nd hand uncracked one?


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Sunday, May 30, 2010 - 09:15 am, by:  Stephen Shackleton (Shack) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I had my top tank replaced a couple of months ago trade price was $209 other quotes were $280. He got the top tank from South Australia over night. I pulled the rad out myself to save some money. The plastic tanks last for about 15 years if you get 19 years like I did then you would not look for a second hand one.
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Sunday, May 30, 2010 - 12:48 pm, by:  Chris Ryan (Ryzan) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hey Ali,

You can get a NEW SC400 (direct replacement) radiator off ebay with ALLOY top and bottom tanks (no more cracking) for about $300AUD delivered. Might be a little more with the crap Aussie dollar.

I'll see if I can find the company I bought from when I get home.
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Sunday, May 30, 2010 - 12:48 pm, by:  Ali Saeed (Ali) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

where did you go Stephen? i really cant have my car off the road for long as its a daily.
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Sunday, May 30, 2010 - 12:56 pm, by:  Miles Baker (Milesb) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Chris I reckon that will be great info for a lot of people to keep on hand.
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Sunday, May 30, 2010 - 01:17 pm, by:  Stephen Shackleton (Shack) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

O'Connor radiators 4 Pritchard St O'Connor
08 93311143

The new tank will last 15 years, the radiator core gets a service and should not wear out if its had proper coolant, for $200 you get a reconditioned radiator.

http://www.truelocal.com.au/business/oconnor-radiators/oconnor
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Sunday, May 30, 2010 - 02:14 pm, by:  Ali Saeed (Ali) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

thanks Stephen.

Chris i spent hours looking for the name of the business. all i could find on ebay US were plastic top tanks. i really cant be arsed forking out 500 dollars for local alloy ones, so if you can find the name of the seller you got it off it would be great. thanks
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Sunday, May 30, 2010 - 02:29 pm, by:  Miles Baker (Milesb) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

There are places that will sell you a plastic tanked radiator for 100 US plus shipping.. pretty good deal. Shipping shouldn't run much over 150 bucks I wouldn't think.
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Sunday, May 30, 2010 - 03:53 pm, by:  Chris Ryan (Ryzan) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I bought mine in June last year, so hopefully the seller is still there (can't check from work).

Ebay Seller ID: rwiamerica
Ebay description: NEW RADIATOR Lexus SC400 1991 1992 1993 1994 1995 91-95

There's an old ebay link in there middle here if that helps at all.

http://soarercentral.com/sc-forum/messages/51876/308208.html?1266132968#POST397565
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Sunday, May 30, 2010 - 03:54 pm, by:  Ali Saeed (Ali) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

well had a look today and i cant really see a crack at all, though the fan shroud is obstructing my view of the top tank.

yeh Miles i saw quite a few radiators on ebay US
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Sunday, May 30, 2010 - 06:47 pm, by:  Chris Ryan (Ryzan) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

This one:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/RADIATOR-Lexus-SC400-1992-93-94-95-1996-1997-92-96-97-_W0QQcmdZViewIt emQQhashZitem5ad9a315f8QQitemZ390198400504QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories

Looking at about $320AUD delivered.
Boris Siljanoski
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Monday, May 31, 2010 - 01:58 am, by:  Boris Siljanoski (Z2tt) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Top tank is cracked most likely, soon you'll see coolant spraying out after drives.
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Monday, May 31, 2010 - 01:59 am, by:  Ali Saeed (Ali) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

oh its already spraying out coolant. im pretty sure a blocked radiator caused this, due to pressure build up. now gotta decide between new radiator or top tank.
Tom Richards
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Monday, May 31, 2010 - 07:48 am, by:  Tom Richards (Tomr) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

last year I purchased from the same place chris is recommending above. great all alloy radiator.
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Monday, May 31, 2010 - 11:28 am, by:  Boris Siljanoski (Z2tt) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

To replace top tank it's about $150, and then you will probably blow another top tank again meaning that $150 is gone to waste.

Get a new radiator, one that won't blow another top tank.

At the same time flush the cooling system, flush all the old stuff out and refill with new Toyota Red.
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Monday, May 31, 2010 - 01:11 pm, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Boris Siljanoski wrote on Monday, May 31, 2010 - 11:28 am:

To replace top tank it's about $150, and then you will probably blow another top tank again meaning that $150 is gone to waste.


Why will it blow again?

The original tank lasted many years, a replacement should last a fair while too. They crack because they get old, no other reason.

Ali, a blocked radiator won't directly cause an increase in pressure. Indirectly though, if the water over heated then the pressure would increase.

The radiator shop should check the condition of the core before fitting the new tank, so if it's stuffed they won't go ahead. If it's not stuffed, then you can forget about it being a problem for many years to come.

Many of us have replaced the top tank, and only ever done it once.
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Monday, May 31, 2010 - 02:37 pm, by:  Ali Saeed (Ali) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

thanks for the advice Peter, i will ring around some places and get a quote. will have to make up my mind before soon. i drove this morning with the cap half open and there was no coolant spray.

Hey Chris/Tom do you guys have a picture of the radiator in the car?
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Monday, May 31, 2010 - 02:39 pm, by:  Ali Saeed (Ali) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

also Peter, i figured it might be a blocked radiator because my heater wasnt working properly. anyway might as well get a new thermostat from toyota. i assume all 1uz have the same thermostat?
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Monday, May 31, 2010 - 04:04 pm, by:  Tom Richards (Tomr) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

ali,

looks the same as the old one. all mounting holes etc line up.

also there is a photo on the web site chris quoted.

delivery from the states is very quick if you go that way.
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Monday, May 31, 2010 - 05:17 pm, by:  Ali Saeed (Ali) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

yeh i will be going that way. straight swap and i can do it myself. thanks for your help guys
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Monday, May 31, 2010 - 07:13 pm, by:  Boris Siljanoski (Z2tt) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Wouldn't bother with top tank replacement, since anyway most people are going for performance and would want better cooling so why not just spend extra cash and get a larger all alloy rad so yeah
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Tuesday, June 01, 2010 - 07:12 am, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thermostats are the same, the heater probably wasn't working due to low coolant level in the system.
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Tuesday, June 01, 2010 - 03:59 pm, by:  Ali Saeed (Ali) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

is it possible that a lack of anitboil in the system(more water than antiboil) can cause the water to boil making steam shoot out off the overflow bottle?
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Tuesday, June 01, 2010 - 10:03 pm, by:  Tom Richards (Tomr) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

ALI, i would be looking for something else EG thermostat, air in system, low water etc.
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Tuesday, June 01, 2010 - 11:22 pm, by:  Ali Saeed (Ali) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

things i know

1. more water in the system than antiboil
2. thermostat is definitely stuffed
3. radiator core is most likely got SOME blockages
4. there was air in the system which i bled out today.

things i am unsure of:
there ever being a crack in the radiator top tank

i think i will get the core cleaned tomorrow and get the guy to look at the top tank too. give it a good flush with a new thermostat and see how i go.

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