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Adam Foster
DieHard
SA
uzz30

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Saturday, July 18, 2009 - 04:21 pm, by:  Adam Foster (Adam) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

my v8 soarer when warmed up properly, its very slow low down. it feels like its just bogging down and slow. but when the temperature gauge reads half way between dead cold and half way( properly warmed up) the car is fine.
Joe Russell
TryHard
Manawatu
4.0 V8 GT-L (UZZ31)

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Tuesday, July 21, 2009 - 06:13 pm, by:  Joe Russell (Joe_r) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It's a common problem Adam, I'm currently trying to figure out.
Andrew Duaso
TryHard
Victoria
V8

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Tuesday, July 21, 2009 - 06:31 pm, by:  Andrew Duaso (Andrewd) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Unplug your air flow meter and watch your tyres turn into smoke when you nail it off the line......

It's not a solution to the problem though, but it works, pulls Heaps harder down low but dosent like shifting. Do it you'll see
Sean Routledge
DieHard
Victoria
V8 Limited

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Tuesday, July 21, 2009 - 07:44 pm, by:  Sean Routledge (Stircrazy) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Unless you've got a '95 onwards I think? Mine barely runs if I unplug the AFM.
Andrew Duaso
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Victoria
V8

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Tuesday, July 21, 2009 - 07:52 pm, by:  Andrew Duaso (Andrewd) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have a factory original 91 and just plugged it back in, I took a left hand turn from a standstill and after 150m there was still rubber burning lol. Plug it back in and it's a slug till 4000rpm. I'm thinking an aftermarket ecu can give the same result, needs extra fuel down low
Michael Toet
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Vic
V8

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Tuesday, July 21, 2009 - 08:38 pm, by:  Michael Toet (Myke31) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have found driving it manually helps a little as well as being nice and progressive with the throttle, rather than just standing on it. Still on those odd occasions when it just burns rubber, you are lift with a grin and wishing for that all the time.

Who makes aftermarket ECU's for the V8 and what are the cost ranges? Is it something you find on Yahoo Japan?
Adam Foster
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Wednesday, July 22, 2009 - 05:30 am, by:  Adam Foster (Adam) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

wolf 3d make after market ecu's. i no this problems normal. but my v8 seems even more sluggish than normal. i reckon i could get dragged off by a hyundai getz.
Mike Bradberry
Goo Roo
Queensland
V8 UnLimited

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Wednesday, July 22, 2009 - 07:27 am, by:  Mike Bradberry (Halflife) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Adam, this subject has been covered before. Have you done a search? There is plenty of info about it.
Could be : clogged cat, broken muffler, fuel filter, plugs, dirty air filter, ecu, and many other things not mentioned here.
Mike Beck
Goo Roo
New Zealand
540i E34 V8

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Wednesday, July 22, 2009 - 02:59 pm, by:  Mike Beck (Gold_40gt) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Isn't this the bit where the TT guys say 'It's because your missing some turbos!'

Ha ha ha.
Adam Foster
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Wednesday, July 22, 2009 - 04:04 pm, by:  Adam Foster (Adam) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

look i understand that. i have changed the ecu, plugs, o2 sensors, air filter, checked the cats.
Mike Bradberry
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Queensland
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Wednesday, July 22, 2009 - 05:01 pm, by:  Mike Bradberry (Halflife) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Most of us are just trying to help Adam. Just ignore that bloke from across the pit.
Daniel Clarke
Goo Roo
NSW
TT 2.5L 6 cylinder

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Wednesday, July 22, 2009 - 05:29 pm, by:  Daniel Clarke (Dieseltrain) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Tried the air flow meter yet ? What about Temp sensors ?
Sean Routledge
DieHard
Victoria
V8 Limited

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Wednesday, July 22, 2009 - 07:26 pm, by:  Sean Routledge (Stircrazy) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Can someone tell me why mine runs like a dog with the AFM disconnected??

Mine does spin the wheels on a flat to the floor takeoff anyway though...

....But maybe that's because i've got an extra 4-5KW from stock ....being '95
Adam Foster
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Wednesday, July 22, 2009 - 07:31 pm, by:  Adam Foster (Adam) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

where are the temp sensors located?
Joe Russell
TryHard
Manawatu
4.0 V8 GT-L (UZZ31)

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Thursday, July 23, 2009 - 03:07 pm, by:  Joe Russell (Joe_r) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The exhaust temp sensors are behind the cats. I cut one by accident and it made no difference(thought it was an oxy sensor ).
I'm in the same boat as you Andrew-there is just something up with the V8 once shes warm, sluggish and slow.
Rob Rojo
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NSW
Soarer TT & UZZ31

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Thursday, July 23, 2009 - 08:18 pm, by:  Rob Rojo (Rob_tt) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The water temp sensor is located next to the left coilpack under the plastic cover.
Sean Routledge
DieHard
Victoria
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Saturday, July 25, 2009 - 12:39 pm, by:  Sean Routledge (Stircrazy) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Maybe they're just getting old? ...or thrashed?
Jamie Richards
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St.john's
v8

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Sunday, July 26, 2009 - 12:46 am, by:  Jamie Richards (Nwb40gt) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Andrew Duaso wrote on Tuesday, July 21, 2009 - 06:31 pm:



running the car with the air flow meter unplug will not damage anything?
Cihan Aday
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JZZ30

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Sunday, July 26, 2009 - 08:45 am, by:  Cihan Aday (Cihan) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I just re-tuned Nik's car with the emanage ultimate and AFM removed, using TPS metering.

Before tuning, after AFM removal AFR's we're in the 11's or lower in the midrange under mid throttle, cruise ignition was off up to 24 degrees in some areas.

If it goes much better disconnected, it will be a bullet when tuned. Nik's 1UZ with exhaust, extractors, BFI + panel filter, and Emanage ultimate + AFM removal made 167rwkw. It is a 94 model i believe. It made 163 with the standard airbox and AFM still in the restriction path. The final figure was with a 3.5inch test intake pipe off the throttle body.

I suspect cars that don't respond well to the AFM disconnect don't have a TPS aligned as to factory specs and / or have weak ignition systems. The additional fuel and the lack of ignition advance can make mixtures hard to ignite and so stop masking any ignition related faults.
Michael Toet
TryHard
Vic
V8

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Thursday, April 15, 2010 - 10:00 pm, by:  Michael Toet (Myke31) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Joe, Adam, any luck with this?

I got really frustrated yesterday when going slightly up hill, I struggled to overtake a truck. Once the car got to 3000rpm or so it started to go, but I was nearly out of road. Its like something unblocks and the car gets the fuel, air or something that it needs.

To date I have been replaced:
Dissy caps, rotor buttons, plugs, leads, coil packs.

I have done the BFI mod.

Mileage is good, so didn't think it is the oxy sensors.

Arg, tis frustrating!!!
James Buchan
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UZZ31 V8

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Thursday, April 15, 2010 - 10:27 pm, by:  James Buchan (Jrbuch) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Cihan, I wouldn't mind getting my car dynoed sometime to see what it's making as-is and what the upgrade path you'd reccomend in the future when I'm finacially a little more stable.
Joe Russell
DieHard
Manawatu
4.0 V8 GT-L (UZZ31)

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Friday, April 16, 2010 - 06:45 pm, by:  Joe Russell (Joe_r) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Micheal: Check your coolant is all the way through the system, by filling it up at the thermostat as shown in this tutorial:
http://soarercentral.com/sc-forum/messages/37/11945.html?1125340828

This fixed my hesitation, as stated in my thread:
http://soarercentral.com/sc-forum/messages/51876/311848.html?1269161658
Michael Toet
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Vic
V8

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Friday, April 16, 2010 - 08:37 pm, by:  Michael Toet (Myke31) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks Joe. That's all good. I have done that one too, and that was the tut I followed.
Joe Russell
DieHard
Manawatu
4.0 V8 GT-L (UZZ31)

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Sunday, April 18, 2010 - 11:59 am, by:  Joe Russell (Joe_r) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Did it fix your problem? Next thing would be temp sensor I'd say.
Michael Toet
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V8

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Sunday, April 18, 2010 - 02:53 pm, by:  Michael Toet (Myke31) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Not sure. I don't think it is right, but I have nothing to compare it to. Its just how the cars are, but how much is to much?

I'll do some searching and reading on this temp sensor. If its an easy fix for $50 DIY, then I'll probably just do it and see if it makes a difference.

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