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Mat Maroni
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Saturday, November 06, 2010 - 06:58 pm, by:  Mat Maroni (Mat1227) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi wondering if anyone can help with advice?

We got caught in a shocking downpour this afternoon in Manly, the car then cut out. It'd restart fine but not idle. After a poke around in passenger footwell the NRMA guy fella said the downpour had most likely got the fuel pump ECU module (?) wet, and it needed resetting or failing that replacing. Either way he said the car wasn't getting fuel once started.

Does anyone know if this issue can be solved by resetting it, if so how I go about doing so?

Or if it needs replacing, does anyone have a known good one I can buy?

Thanks very much indeed. A bit stuck!

Mat
Peter Nitschke
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Sunday, November 07, 2010 - 01:36 am, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The pump ECU is inside the car, behind the panel next to the rear passengers side seat. Unlikely it got wet.

You can reset all ECU's by disconnecting the battery for a while, though I doubt that will fix the problem. More likely something needs to dry out.
Mat Maroni
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Sunday, November 07, 2010 - 08:02 am, by:  Mat Maroni (Mat1227) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Weird

He said it was something behind the panels in the passenger footwell, well that's where the water was? Something down there that handles fueling?
Peter Williams
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Sunday, November 07, 2010 - 08:57 am, by:  Peter Williams (Skeeta) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Main engine computer (ecu) is down there, just about under passengers feet
Tom Richards
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Sunday, November 07, 2010 - 10:15 am, by:  Tom Richards (Tomr) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

go to the diagnostic connector and short FP (fuel pump) to B+ (12v) If the car now runs, the fuel pump ECU is the problem. You can run th ecar with this in place.
James Buchan
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Sunday, November 07, 2010 - 10:47 am, by:  James Buchan (Jrbuch) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

As Tom has said. Seems strange that water would get into your car and stop one of the ecu's from functioning unless your car was literally flooded.
Mat Maroni
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Sunday, November 07, 2010 - 09:26 pm, by:  Mat Maroni (Mat1227) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ok thanks guys - was 10 min in traffic sudden downpour but nothing more involved. That's really helpful, cheers - not sure how to short the required points or where the plug is so will take this thread to a garage

Cheers!

Mat
Mat Maroni
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Sunday, November 07, 2010 - 09:40 pm, by:  Mat Maroni (Mat1227) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Having had a search of the forum this looks like something I should have a go at myself first - where's the diagnostic plug? And is a paperclip sufficient, I guess just pop it across those two ports and try to start the car?
Trent Linnell
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Sunday, November 07, 2010 - 11:17 pm, by:  Trent Linnell (Tlinnell) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Under the Dash on the Drivers Side and Just above the Accelerator Pedal. It will be hidden under a plastic flap.

Yes a paper clip is fine.
Tom Richards
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Monday, November 08, 2010 - 06:49 am, by:  Tom Richards (Tomr) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

there is a second port in the engine bay. LHS engine rocker cover near the front. its easier to see what you are doing.
Mat Maroni
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Tuesday, November 09, 2010 - 09:28 am, by:  Mat Maroni (Mat1227) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Does the labelling vary from car to car or should it be standard? If I'm looking in the right place, mine wasn't labelled as expected - no FP or B+, all the letters differed from the other shots of diagnostic plugs I've seen on the forum.

Is this the right place (excuse the shocking photo, couldn't get the phone to focus - but no FP or B+)?

(will try and get a better pic tonight)

Sorry for all the noob questions..


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Tom Richards
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Tuesday, November 09, 2010 - 06:05 pm, by:  Tom Richards (Tomr) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

mat, go to the port in the engine bay. it is a rectangular connector at the front of the LHS rocker cover
Mat Maroni
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Wednesday, November 10, 2010 - 02:32 pm, by:  Mat Maroni (Mat1227) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks Tom, couldn't find it before but will have a proper try with a better torch tonight. Cheers
Mat Maroni
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Wednesday, November 10, 2010 - 06:58 pm, by:  Mat Maroni (Mat1227) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Right - got it - quick (silly) question - do I need to disconnect the battery before I can stick the paperclip in to bridge the two? Am I going to get a shock?!
James Buchan
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Wednesday, November 10, 2010 - 07:36 pm, by:  James Buchan (Jrbuch) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

No mate, no need to disconnect the battery. You won't get a shock. Just make sure the car is turned off when you do so. Also from my experience, don't remove the paper clip after the test, as I was stupid enough to realise, it gets HOT. Derr
Mat Maroni
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Thursday, November 11, 2010 - 10:35 pm, by:  Mat Maroni (Mat1227) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks very much :-)
Martin Criado
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Tuesday, November 16, 2010 - 10:31 am, by:  Martin Criado (Mmctuner) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Maybe it´s time to do the 12v Fuel ECU mod. Search for that. In club lexus is a DIY with pictures to do this.
I did it a month ago with very good results.
Mat Maroni
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Wednesday, November 17, 2010 - 09:29 am, by:  Mat Maroni (Mat1227) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks Martin - bridging Fp & B+ didn't help (not sure how deep you have to push them but tried three different size paper clips to no avail). I'd say I'm not skilled enough to have a go at that safely, so will try and find someone locally who knows these cars.

Can anyone recommend a mechanic in Surry Hills or near Central sydney? Preferably someone who knows these cars/imports as NRMA guy didn't seem to have a clue

Or is there someone on here who'd help me for bountiful beer money?
Joshua Irvin
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Sunday, November 28, 2010 - 01:51 pm, by:  Joshua Irvin (Liquid_silk) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hey there

I have this exact problem with my V8. After asking around and doing some empirical testing I am pretty sure it is the computer in mine getting wet and freaking out. Have stopped washing her so much and have avoided rain if possible and it has not shorted out for a good months. If I get around to changing the computer I will do some more testing and start a new thread on the issue.

best of luck

J
Mat Maroni
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Monday, November 29, 2010 - 05:18 pm, by:  Mat Maroni (Mat1227) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks Josh - interesting - it's with Niall now so sure he'll get to the bottom of it, will report back :-)

Mat

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