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Stephen Lee
Tinkerer
NSW
V8

Posts: 40
Reg: 06-2008

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Monday, August 04, 2008 - 05:08 pm, by:  Stephen Lee (Ara_ara_ara) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

last month i decided to get a Large K&N pod filter thinking it will improve the performance of my V*.
well.
long story short.
it does not suit soarer's very well.
it sucks up more fuel and sort od push's the torque band higher up.
making the car feel sluggish and slow to get going.
yesterday i did a BFI with a TRD filter and cold air intake.
man did it make a difference in how the car feels.
so the story is.
don't waste your cash on pod filters.
EVEN IF YOU HAVE A COOL BOX FOR IT.
Chris Lock
Tinkerer
sa
celica

Posts: 73
Reg: 03-2008

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Monday, August 04, 2008 - 05:11 pm, by:  Chris Lock (Sledge) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Pics of the new setup?
Stephen Lee
Tinkerer
NSW
V8

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Monday, August 04, 2008 - 05:23 pm, by:  Stephen Lee (Ara_ara_ara) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

will get some pics and will upload them this week.
Maurice Diggler
Goo Roo
Victoria
TR44 HF

Posts: 1957
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Monday, August 04, 2008 - 05:29 pm, by:  Maurice Diggler (Mau_rice) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Stephen, I think you just had a dud, I've been running a pod in a sealed box on my car pretty much since day one and it's never been better. Perhaps V8 and TT's are different in that regard.
Daniel Clarke
Goo Roo
NSW
TT 2.5L 6 cylinder

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Tuesday, August 05, 2008 - 06:51 am, by:  Daniel Clarke (Dieseltrain) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Were you running the Pod filter in the engine bay with no shielding or boxxed fromt he hto engine bay air?

If so, there lays your answer !
Stephen Lee
Tinkerer
NSW
V8

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Tuesday, August 05, 2008 - 12:52 pm, by:  Stephen Lee (Ara_ara_ara) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

yes i had a cool box made for it .
with a cold air feed.
i think it only effects with NA cars.
i know that the K&N pod's do wonders for boosted cars.
but now with the TRD filter+BFI and cold air feed.
the car pics up lot quicker.
and the fuel usage has dropped so much.


Stephen Lee
Tinkerer
NSW
V8

Posts: 44
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Tuesday, August 05, 2008 - 01:35 pm, by:  Stephen Lee (Ara_ara_ara) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

hmmm how do you get pic's up???
Chris Dmochowski
TryHard
SA
Toyota UZZ31 GTL V8

Posts: 117
Reg: 06-2007

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Tuesday, August 05, 2008 - 01:54 pm, by:  Chris Dmochowski (Mr_chrisdmo) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Stephen Lee wrote on Tuesday, August 05, 2008 - 01:35 pm:

hmmm how do you get pic's up???



The little paper clip icon on top of the text box then just browse for you pic's.
Jeff Bedsor
TryHard
QLD
TT

Posts: 382
Reg: 10-2006

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Tuesday, August 05, 2008 - 01:59 pm, by:  Jeff Bedsor (Jeff_bedsor) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The K&N wasn't over oiled was it? You have to be fairly careful or it really gums them up.
Mike Beck
Goo Roo
New Zealand
Soarer Limited UZZ31 & Soarer 3.0GT JZZ31

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Tuesday, August 05, 2008 - 02:28 pm, by:  Mike Beck (Gold_40gt) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Nice to hear Stephen,

This fool I knew put a 'Pod filter' on his V8 Soarer, I told him that he would loose power slightly and not gain anything, your better off to do a BFI - I'll show you how to make one up - it will work much better... But he persisted in using his K&N filter so I said its up to you! I figured it would be a good opportunity to see what they are actually like... After he fitted it, I took it for a drive, the results were horrible, sounded nasty and was not any faster. I just had to laugh.... they certainly are a waste of time and money!

The BFI can't really be beat Definitely the cheapest and best modification - Fun to make, Gets better flow, therefore more power and sounds brilliant, especially at 7500 rpm on my V8.

:-)
Stephen Lee
Tinkerer
NSW
V8

Posts: 45
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Tuesday, August 05, 2008 - 09:59 pm, by:  Stephen Lee (Ara_ara_ara) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Upload

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as much as i would have liked to add a third tubing to it.
it is impossible to have it fit to where it is currently......
Daniel Clarke
Goo Roo
NSW
TT 2.5L 6 cylinder

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Tuesday, August 05, 2008 - 10:44 pm, by:  Daniel Clarke (Dieseltrain) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hmm, That screams out for attention and imo looks terrible with those (trumpets?), sticking out of the front bumper...

Otherwise i have NO issue with a bfi at all :-)
Chris Dmochowski
TryHard
SA
Toyota UZZ31 GTL V8

Posts: 118
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Tuesday, August 05, 2008 - 10:57 pm, by:  Chris Dmochowski (Mr_chrisdmo) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

They look like exhaust cannons...Each to their own and all that...Well at least your trying something new.
Stephen Lee
Tinkerer
NSW
V8

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Tuesday, August 05, 2008 - 11:10 pm, by:  Stephen Lee (Ara_ara_ara) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

it's just a temp solution to hold the tubes in place.
will be making a duct to hold the tubes flush to the front bar soon.
and the most important thing for me is functionality.
didn't really care about the looks when i got that done...lol
Joshua Rao
DieHard
WA
JZZ30 vvti GT-L

Posts: 932
Reg: 09-2006

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Wednesday, August 06, 2008 - 03:12 am, by:  Joshua Rao (Soaren1) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I want to do something similar to that. I think that will feed better than stock
Jeff Bedsor
TryHard
QLD
TT

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Wednesday, August 06, 2008 - 01:39 pm, by:  Jeff Bedsor (Jeff_bedsor) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It will be great when it rains, forced water induction. Just don't forget to block them before it does.
Matthew Sharpe
Goo Roo
North Island
JZZ31

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Reg: 10-2005

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Friday, August 08, 2008 - 06:08 pm, by:  Matthew Sharpe (Madmatt) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I dunno, people might think you have some kind of James Bond secret weapon...
John Khanh
TryHard
NSW
UZZ31

Posts: 229
Reg: 03-2007

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Friday, August 08, 2008 - 07:24 pm, by:  John Khanh (Bigjohn) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

That just screams for Police attention.
Wafi Cheebo
TryHard
Victoria
T

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Reg: 09-2006

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Friday, August 08, 2008 - 08:56 pm, by:  Wafi Cheebo (Wafi) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I had a pod for a while on my V8 too, but one day when I put the stock box back on and did something similar to what you have done I noticed a lot of difference, it had much better take off and much less intake noise, was very noticeable. On V8's it makes a difference but with a Turbo pod filters don't decrease the power really I found. I hav'nt really experimented on a turbo car yet, just guessing
Stephen Lee
Tinkerer
NSW
V8

Posts: 50
Reg: 06-2008

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Tuesday, August 12, 2008 - 09:13 pm, by:  Stephen Lee (Ara_ara_ara) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

why would it attract attentions unless you do dumb things....
Maurice Diggler
Goo Roo
Victoria
TR44 HF

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Tuesday, August 12, 2008 - 09:50 pm, by:  Maurice Diggler (Mau_rice) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Stephen Lee wrote on Tuesday, August 12, 2008 - 09:13 pm:

why would it attract attentions unless you do dumb things....


That is a dumb attitude, the car itself attracts attention so you are buggered from the beginning, remember it's not a Corolla.

Also - I have sort of the same set up as you, except my hosing is black leading to my cold air box and I have the hoses tucked behind the bar sitting on the intercooler pipe where it can't be seen. It works well.
Gary Nimmo
TryHard
WA
V8 Supercharged & intercooled

Posts: 334
Reg: 07-2005

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Wednesday, August 13, 2008 - 05:43 am, by:  Gary Nimmo (Gazzasore) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Just Buy a K&N Panel filter Here
www.sparkplugs.com
& do BFI
This is the only way to go
John Khanh
TryHard
NSW
UZZ31

Posts: 237
Reg: 03-2007

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Wednesday, August 13, 2008 - 08:56 am, by:  John Khanh (Bigjohn) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Stephen Lee wrote on Tuesday, August 12, 2008 - 09:13 pm:

why would it attract attentions unless you do dumb things....




Because it stands out like dogs nuts!
Steven Soknacki
Tinkerer
Ontario
SC400

Posts: 59
Reg: 07-2006

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Saturday, September 13, 2008 - 01:50 am, by:  Steven Soknacki (Sc_coupe) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Went from cheap paper filter in my BFI to a K&N panel. I am happy with the results. Mike Beck is right, BFI can't be beat!
Tom Brookes
Tinkerer
NSW
Nil

Posts: 44
Reg: 03-2010

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Monday, November 22, 2010 - 03:13 pm, by:  Tom Brookes (Aristor) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Mike do you have a BFI on your Jzz31? Much difference to stock?

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