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Michael Mazzone
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V8 GT-L

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Wednesday, January 05, 2011 - 11:26 am, by:  Michael Mazzone (Mazzownya) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi everyone,

I've had a problem with my 91 V8 Soarer the past couple days. It runs ok when the car is cold but as it heats up it runs pretty bad. I can feel it missing particularly under light/normal acceleration, it's harder to notice when my foot is down. it misses when in neutral/park also.
The first thing i did was replace the air filter (which was filthy) and tried an injector cleaner. as well as a few ECU resets. its probably running a bit better but it's still happening

I'm running it on BP ultimate. any ideas? Thanks in advance
Layton Molenaar
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Soarer + 96RZ6spd

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Wednesday, January 05, 2011 - 11:50 am, by:  Layton Molenaar (Rbdestroyer) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Try replacing your 02 sensor. It runs on a pre determined setting when cold and once up to a certain temperature it will start to read your exhaust gases. Could be it. Give it a crack..
Michael Mazzone
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V8 GT-L

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Wednesday, January 05, 2011 - 12:48 pm, by:  Michael Mazzone (Mazzownya) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

ok thanks, happen to know where i can get one cheap? I just rang sprint and they want $152 for one, bit of a rip. all other places i tried didn't have any. repco, super cheap, autobarn.
Glen Muller
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Soarer - 'Z31 V8

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Wednesday, January 05, 2011 - 03:18 pm, by:  Glen Muller (Doom_and_gloom) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Layton Molenaar wrote on Wednesday, January 05, 2011 - 11:50 am:

It runs on a pre determined setting when cold




IE, flat chat! So tempting to flog the crap out of the car on cold mornings, but I do respect it and wish to keep it going long term!
Brett Harrison
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JZZ30

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Wednesday, January 05, 2011 - 07:28 pm, by:  Brett Harrison (Bretto) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The v8 will run fine with the O2 sensors disconnected, so try that first.
If not, try coil, I would would be looking at the one on the left bank, close to the exhaust manifold.

Brett
Michael Mazzone
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V8 GT-L

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Wednesday, January 05, 2011 - 08:00 pm, by:  Michael Mazzone (Mazzownya) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

ok, i've replaced the O2 sensor behind the front right wheel arch. It's still running like a bag of when hot lol. So there's another O2 sensor? Whereabouts is that one, and the coil? As i'm sure this has been done millions of times before is there a link someone can direct me to? I'm still a bit of a newb to the soarers.
Brett Harrison
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JZZ30

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Wednesday, January 05, 2011 - 09:34 pm, by:  Brett Harrison (Bretto) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Michael, the o2 sensor would be down on my list of things to check, like I said you can just have them disconnected and they will run fine.

Use search button, coil issues have been covered before,

Also try disconnecting the afm, and just run it with it disconnected. Its just elimination.
Michael Mazzone
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V8 GT-L

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Thursday, January 06, 2011 - 12:57 pm, by:  Michael Mazzone (Mazzownya) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

ok, is there an easy way to disconnect the coil pack on top of the engine? it seems to be quite difficult to get to.
i removed the output plug most of the way off from it (couldn't get it all the way off) and the engine note didn't change at all (shocked my self a few times lol) but i thought there might be some arcing between the output connector plugs so it might actually be acting like its still plugged in. I pulled the power from the other coil above the AC compressor and the engine died.
I disconnected the AFM, nothing changed.
Adam Foster
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Thursday, January 06, 2011 - 03:10 pm, by:  Adam Foster (Adam) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i would probably try some new spark plugs
Brett Harrison
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JZZ30

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Thursday, January 06, 2011 - 08:30 pm, by:  Brett Harrison (Bretto) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Coil at top of engine has 4 little phillips screws holding it, then a plastic plug.
Peter Nitschke
Junk Filterer
South Australia
UZZ30 UZZ31

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Thursday, January 06, 2011 - 10:51 pm, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If you managed to disable the top coil and nothing changed, then definitely replace it.

For another test, unplug it when the engine is cold and running properly and see if it is then acting as badly as when hot.
Glen Muller
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Friday, January 07, 2011 - 06:58 am, by:  Glen Muller (Doom_and_gloom) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Michael Mazzone wrote on Wednesday, January 05, 2011 - 08:00 pm:

So there's another O2 sensor?




On the other side of the exhaust... about the same distance back from the cat as the side you tampered with.
Michael Mazzone
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V8 GT-L

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Saturday, January 08, 2011 - 04:07 am, by:  Michael Mazzone (Mazzownya) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ok, Thanks everyone, all fixed. I believe it was the leads. 3 of them tested open. I replaced all the spark plugs too. Now it's running so smooth. Awesome, have been driving it all night.

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