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Reed Robinson
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nsw
v8

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Reg: 02-2012

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Saturday, April 07, 2012 - 12:51 pm, by:  Reed Robinson (The_manifesto) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi All,

I hope someone might be able to help.

my car wont idle properly and is stuck in a loop where it revs up to about 1500-2000rpm and drops back to about 500rpm. i can stop it doing this by restricting the amount of air going to the IACV and it will then idle properly all be it a little fast. With the restricted airflow it will run fine and can be driven without issue.

this indicated to me that my IACV may be the problem, so i took it off to investigate, but the bearings are in great shape, spin freely and it seems to be operating as it should. Despite this and to be on the safe side i sourced another IACV and installed it, unfortunately it didn't fix the problem.

my next problem which i don't think is related, but started after the surging idle problem first appeared, when my engine gets up to operating temp and has been running for 10-20 mins (with restricted airflow to the IACV) it suddenly almost dies, wont rev, coughs and splutters and blows black smoke (indicating its running really rich and down on a number of cylinders). when this happens the car is undrivable. this problem only happens when the car is up to operating temp and if i let it cool down it will start and run as it should (with restricted airflow to the IACV).

I have tried to pull the fault codes but none are stored, when i bridge the two terminals to get the fault code the cat converter light just flashes on and off constantly.

i'm pulling my hair out trying to work out what the problem is and i'm hoping someone might have an idea.

I should mention I have a 1UZ in a mk4 supra.

Cheers,

Reed
Matt Petersen
DieHard
New Zealand
V8

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Saturday, April 07, 2012 - 01:37 pm, by:  Matt Petersen (Mattmannz) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sounds like airflow meter to me.

Matt
Reed Robinson
Tinkerer
nsw
v8

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Saturday, April 07, 2012 - 03:05 pm, by:  Reed Robinson (The_manifesto) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Matt, i thought that might be a possibility but have run a multi meter over it and it looks to be ok. i've also tried a second afm but it has the same problems.

I should mention i also have brand new oxygen sensors and a note written on the inside of the ecu says it had the caps replaced in 2008 (however i haven’t tried a second ecu yet).
Matt Petersen
DieHard
New Zealand
V8

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Saturday, April 07, 2012 - 03:25 pm, by:  Matt Petersen (Mattmannz) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I would have guessed iacv, AFM, then ecu in that order.

Matt.
Mark Donovan
DieHard
Auckland
V8 Limited

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Saturday, April 07, 2012 - 09:04 pm, by:  Mark Donovan (Mark_donovan) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Reed, find yourself another ECU to test with and see if the problem still occurs. Quickest way to find out if your own ECU is the problem.
Reed Robinson
Tinkerer
nsw
v8

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Saturday, April 07, 2012 - 10:03 pm, by:  Reed Robinson (The_manifesto) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks Mark and Matt i'll see if i can track one down.

Does anyone in Sydney have or know of a known working ECU i could borrow/rent?
Brett Harrison
DieHard
QLD
JZZ30

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Sunday, April 08, 2012 - 06:42 pm, by:  Brett Harrison (Bretto) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You can eliminate the afm, just disconnect it, car will idle and run fine under normal circumstance's.


If the car is surging, look for leaks in the manifold, make sure the throttle plate is closing 100%. Also try cleaning throttle body/plate.


But as others have pointed out it may be the ecu, bad caps etc. But also check out the TPS, it has a big effect on the idle when set incorrectly/faulty.
Jose-Antonio Castillo
Goo Roo
NSW
JZZ30/UZZ31/JZS160

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Reg: 07-2005

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Sunday, April 08, 2012 - 07:13 pm, by:  Jose-Antonio Castillo (Ahh_soarer) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I had similar symptoms a few weeks ago with my Soarer. Of course for the past two weeks it hasn't come back since (could've been a fuel related issue?).

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