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Derick Sanderson
Tinkerer
Wa
V8 limited

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Thursday, April 19, 2012 - 09:27 pm, by:  Derick Sanderson (Dericksanderson) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hey guys.
Yesterday went to the petrol station filled up with 98 premium as I do every week. Jumped back into car, started it and it instantly stalled. I had to roll car out of petrol station. Continued to try over and over again. Engine fires and idles for 1 second and then dies.
Managed to tow car home. I sat the car over night and started it this morning. Still having the same problems.
Ive read heaps of forums in regards to it might be the fuel pump ecu and that I can by pass it by getting a paper clip and bridging fp and b+ in the diagnosis box. Did that and it didn't work!
So I have taken all the boot lining out and the back seats and fiddled with plugs plugging to the ecu and fuel pump to make sure they don't have a bad connection. All seems to b plugged in.
So does anyone else have any ideas as to whats wrong or possibly someone who lives in WA please come have a look for me.
Jamie Richards
TryHard
St.john's
v8

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Friday, April 20, 2012 - 02:50 am, by:  Jamie Richards (Nwb40gt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

when bridging fp and b+ did u hear the fuel pump energize?
Michael Brown
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qld
SC400 V8 , / 1999 Camry / 2011 I45

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Friday, April 20, 2012 - 07:13 am, by:  Michael Brown (Supramick1) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Correct me if im wrong but if the fuel pump was buggered it wouldnt start at all would it ? I had a similar problem with mine. When you start it try pressing on the go pedal and holding it at revs. I doubt yours is the same problem but i fixed mine by turning up the idle.
Derick Sanderson
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Wa
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Friday, April 20, 2012 - 11:49 am, by:  Derick Sanderson (Dericksanderson) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeh when bridging you can hesr the fuel pump. Before the ignition is turned all the way. No
Matter how many revs I give it on start up it dies. It's so strange as I was just driving it. Filled it up, got back into car and didny work! So strange.
Dan McColl
Goo Roo
Victoria (The Nazi State)
Pretty Red Thing and The Black Rattler

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Friday, April 20, 2012 - 11:50 am, by:  Dan McColl (Hoon) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

ISCV or your ecu has kaput.
Jeff Bedsor
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QLD
TT

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Friday, April 20, 2012 - 12:01 pm, by:  Jeff Bedsor (Jeff_bedsor) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Fuel tank full of water? I would be checking that first, to much of a coincidence for me.
Derick Sanderson
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Wa
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Friday, April 20, 2012 - 12:22 pm, by:  Derick Sanderson (Dericksanderson) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ha na don't think it's water. I just filled the car up with 98. Unless they were selling me water at $1.63 a litre!
Derick Sanderson
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Wa
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Friday, April 20, 2012 - 12:22 pm, by:  Derick Sanderson (Dericksanderson) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

What is the iscv?
Jeff Bedsor
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QLD
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Friday, April 20, 2012 - 12:52 pm, by:  Jeff Bedsor (Jeff_bedsor) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I was actually being serious, it happens a lot. Check your fuel is OK first.
Derick Sanderson
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Friday, April 20, 2012 - 12:53 pm, by:  Derick Sanderson (Dericksanderson) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

How would water get in? How do I check the fuel?
Jeff Bedsor
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Friday, April 20, 2012 - 01:04 pm, by:  Jeff Bedsor (Jeff_bedsor) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

From the underground tanks at the servo, most of the tanks will have some water in them, if they let the fuel level get to low they start pumping water. Not supposed to happen but it does. remove the fuel line where it feeds into the engine (not sure where on v8's) and hold it in a bucket and turn the key on. It should pump out some fuel(some one correct me if I'm wrong with the V8) Or disconnect before the filter and it should run freely.
Derick Sanderson
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Friday, April 20, 2012 - 01:48 pm, by:  Derick Sanderson (Dericksanderson) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

That's a possibility as it was pissing with rain when I was filling up although if there was water the car would ignite and fire and the engine wouldn't turn over....
I think it's an immobiliser problem. Does anyone know where the immobiliser is?
Michael Brown
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qld
SC400 V8 , / 1999 Camry / 2011 I45

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Friday, April 20, 2012 - 04:16 pm, by:  Michael Brown (Supramick1) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

most common place is in the drivers side kick panel. or under that cover that sits above your knees
Daniel Marshall
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QLD
V8 UZZ31 X2

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Friday, April 20, 2012 - 04:29 pm, by:  Daniel Marshall (Ydass) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i would be checking fuel also as you just filled up.
did you was the car just before fueling up?
Daniel Marshall
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Friday, April 20, 2012 - 04:32 pm, by:  Daniel Marshall (Ydass) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

do you have a seal between rear of bonnet and windscreen?
Austen Menze
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WA
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Friday, April 20, 2012 - 06:53 pm, by:  Austen Menze (Mercyfulfate) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Happened to be before, check the fuses and relays are all installed properly. Pull them out and have a look at the pins on them and clean them if necessary.
Jamie Richards
TryHard
St.john's
v8

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Saturday, April 21, 2012 - 01:33 am, by:  Jamie Richards (Nwb40gt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

if car is starting & not idling you should check out the ISCV-idle speed control valve, give it a good clean
Martin Criado
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Rio Negro
SC400

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Thursday, May 10, 2012 - 02:41 am, by:  Martin Criado (Mmctuner) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I had the same problem and it´s the Fuel pump ECU failing.
Search for "12v fuel ecu mod" and do that.

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