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Andrew Marshall
Tinkerer
Queensland
SC400

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Reg: 06-2011

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Thursday, October 18, 2012 - 11:24 am, by:  Andrew Marshall (The_rooman) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi everyone. Having issues with alternator and p/s pump. Have read all the threads that I can find, but no info on rebuilding alternator. Anyone know how to do this? Or do I take it to an sparky and hope for the best. Live in Cairns, so anyone know a good sparky here? Have had rotten luck in the past with them. Am rebuilding the p/s pump, because that is the culprit for the alternator issues. Cheers
Tom Richards
Goo Roo
nsw
V8

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Thursday, October 18, 2012 - 04:36 pm, by:  Tom Richards (Tomr) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

take it to an auto elect.


The PS fluid "eats' the insulation off the wire in the windings. If this has happened it is stuffed.
Andrew Marshall
Tinkerer
Queensland
SC400

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Friday, October 19, 2012 - 10:04 pm, by:  Andrew Marshall (The_rooman) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Gidday Tom and thanks for your reply. I am sure we have spoken before when I converted the shocks from airbags.
Am already getting deep into this issue and yes it looks like that will be a part of the rebuild. What will be my major issue is availability of a decent Auto sparky to do the job here in Cairns. Again I rely on my mechanic to source the guys, and hope that he can rebuild it, otherwise I'm told it's around a $1000.00 for a new oem part. I'm already sourcing the pump kit and have a guy to do that if I can't, so the question then becomes do I change all the hoses too? The usual rule is yes, but it will again depend on price and availability I suppose. Other suggestions, tips or sources would be great. I am talking at the moment with Andrew at Kudos Motorsport on the Gold Coast, who sounds a decent supplier. Cheers.
Tom Richards
Goo Roo
nsw
V8

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Saturday, October 20, 2012 - 11:13 am, by:  Tom Richards (Tomr) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

look on ebay.com for sc400 alternator
Tom Richards
Goo Roo
nsw
V8

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Saturday, October 20, 2012 - 01:02 pm, by:  Tom Richards (Tomr) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

for the pump repair

http://planetsoarer.com/Power%20steering%20pump.htm

it is a straight forward job, you can buy kits on ebay

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trksid=p5197.m570.l1313&_nkw=sc400+power+steering+pump+kit&_sacat=0& _from=R40

get a new bearing from the local bearing shop
Andrew Marshall
Tinkerer
Queensland
SC400

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Saturday, October 20, 2012 - 08:55 pm, by:  Andrew Marshall (The_rooman) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks Tom. I am sourcing the alternator on Ebay. I had already bookmarked the planetsoarer page from my research prior to my first posting. I am also following the link that exists on that page. Cheers for your help with the steer to ebay. I have resisted that den of iniquity for only so long it appears.
Boris Siljanoski
Goo Roo
Western Australia
LS400 + Soarer.

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Sunday, October 21, 2012 - 09:34 pm, by:  Boris Siljanoski (Z2tt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I can sell you a new non refurbished alternator if your interested.
Andrew Marshall
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Queensland
SC400

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Sunday, October 21, 2012 - 09:40 pm, by:  Andrew Marshall (The_rooman) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Alright. I have removed the pump reservoir and radiator overflow reservoir. Now I have discovered a lot of residue in the radiator overflow reservoir and am wondering if C.L.R. would damage the plastic. Any suggestions would be helpful. I am also having a hell of a time removing the hoses, as they seem to have welded to the outlets, on both the pump reservoir and the power steering pump itself. As I attempt to remove the thin hose, the steel pipe attached to the next line that must run to the rack is moving in and out of the hose. I can't think that this is a good thing, but I don't know. Anyway it looks like I'm up for new hoses, which I expected anyway. I am really hoping to avoid the cascade effect if I can though. Alternator has been ordered, as has the pump kit. So now I wait. Any other hints would be great. Cheers.
Andrew Marshall
Tinkerer
Queensland
SC400

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Tuesday, October 23, 2012 - 06:53 pm, by:  Andrew Marshall (The_rooman) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Help please. Which nut on the power steering connection to the rack do you undo? Also if it is the bottom one,is it a normal thread or not. I know it will take some force to remove it, but really? Also is the pulley meant to be on so tight? I know that these may appear dumb questions, but I am keen to get this right.
Jamie Richards
TryHard
St.john's
v8

Posts: 203
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Wednesday, October 24, 2012 - 06:47 am, by:  Jamie Richards (Nwb40gt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

if your just gona overhaul the pump no need to remove lines from rack just remove line from pump, leave on pulley & bolt pump from engine
Dave Rose
Goo Roo
wa
UZZ31 / ML320 CDI

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Wednesday, October 24, 2012 - 03:44 pm, by:  Dave Rose (Sand_groper) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Jamie, if the pulley is really tight and they usually are, best to remove it while on engine just put a bar through one of the pulley holes onto the engine to hold it and socket on nut .
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Andrew Marshall
Tinkerer
Queensland
SC400

Posts: 29
Reg: 06-2011

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Wednesday, October 24, 2012 - 06:22 pm, by:  Andrew Marshall (The_rooman) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks guys for the feedback and photos. Have got the pulley off. I went and spoke to the re builders of the pump and the mechanic there took pity on me and told me that he puts a long nail punch behind the pulley, as close as possible to the shaft. Then gently tap on the punch a few times, rotating the pulley. Well guess what, it came off as easy as! Also asked about the banjo fitting to the high pressure hose to the rack. I am told that the nut directly on the pump is the one to crack. Well I have done that, but I can't get it to move further. Is there a trick to banjo fittings? I am still a novice I am afraid and I am currently trying hard not to burr the nut. Cheers.
Andrew Marshall
Tinkerer
Queensland
SC400

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Wednesday, October 24, 2012 - 08:13 pm, by:  Andrew Marshall (The_rooman) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Finally got the nut off and the banjo apart. Took some advice from a thread by Edison, thanks to him. I just walked away and came back later.I am missing a lot of bark, but I am so close now. The guys re-building the pump reckon they can get the parts the next day after receiving the pump, and do the job for around $260.00 at maximum. Well within my budget thankfully.
Andrew Marshall
Tinkerer
Queensland
SC400

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Friday, November 02, 2012 - 07:58 pm, by:  Andrew Marshall (The_rooman) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi guys. Got an issue with the pump. I have finally got it all back together, to discover the pressure sensor that attaches to the banjo bolt has deteriorated to the point that I can't re-connect the sensor to the mounting point. Anyone know where I can get another? Are they universal? If they are I will hit up the pump re-builders on Monday. Cheers.
Andrew Marshall
Tinkerer
Queensland
SC400

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Saturday, November 03, 2012 - 05:52 pm, by:  Andrew Marshall (The_rooman) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Alright. After a search of the threads, I have found out that the sensor I am talking about is the high pressure idle up switch on the power steering pump. I understand that the switch can be replaced by a bung. Has anyone successfully done this apart from Neil?, who has suggested it. Would anyone have a photo of the bung so I can get an idea of what it looks like? I am getting desperate to get her back on the road this week if I can. Cheers
Andrew Marshall
Tinkerer
Queensland
SC400

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Saturday, November 10, 2012 - 12:35 pm, by:  Andrew Marshall (The_rooman) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I am happy to report for others who encounter this issue that the Power steering re builders here have said that the bung for the high pressure idle up sensor on the banjo bolt will not hurt her at all, and that appears to be the case. I put in a high tensile bolt with no issues. Having done 200kms since I did the job, the only leak appears to be from a return hose at the bottom of the system. It goes into the shop on Monday for the rest of the repairs. For anyone here in Cairns, I recommend Pink's for your power steering problems, as they have now done a few according to the guy there, and they got the job done in a day.

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