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Ian Johnston
Goo Roo
South Australia
1995 UZZ31, BA XR6Turbo Ute. 2007 VE GTS.
Posts: 1605
Reg: 07-2005
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I have had a bit of a search, cant find what I want.
Does anyone know, or has done a 1UZ conversion into a Soarer? Even a 4.3 engine?
Few 1/2 cuts around at good prices, so just wondering. I would think the engine would bolt in, not sure how hard the electrics would be. And the 5 speed auto??
I need a full time job. Too much time to dream |
Ali Saeed
Goo Roo
WA
'97 JZZ30, '12 ZN6
Posts: 4316
Reg: 09-2007
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I believe Neil has tackled this. Swap should be simple. the wiring will be problematic. The tailshaft may also be problematic |
Mike Beck
Goo Roo
New Zealand
BMW E36 Coupe 1UZFE V8 340i
Posts: 5680
Reg: 11-2005
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I've thought about this, it would be pretty easy after my conversion.
Engine would bolt in.
Gearbox would bolt in.
You would need to re-do the wiring, no big deal IMO, just need to work around the wire throttle control, and return less fuel system - some engines have the issue with security stuff but again there are ways around this.
Gearbox could work with the VVTi ECU or use a new controller.
Driveshaft would need to be modified to work with the bigger output flange of the A650e 5 speed.
I imagine some system wouldn't work like dash messages etc as they suit the older ECU.
Not a bad idea, but at the same time, for the cost involved you could just work on a stock 1UZ and get more power out of it, then again it's ideal to swap in a 10+ year fresher motor into the car already with a good increase in power / torque. |
James Buchan
Goo Roo
Vic
V8, vvti single turbo
Posts: 1602
Reg: 10-2008
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Yeah the engine will bolt in okay. Some wiring will need to be done to get everything working.
I'd not thought about the tailshaft though. Could you run the A340 on the later model vvti motors? Guessing the vvti 1U engine wouldn't/couldn't control the A340 gearbox.
Sounds like a good swap though. |
Ali Saeed
Goo Roo
WA
'97 JZZ30, '12 ZN6
Posts: 4317
Reg: 09-2007
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No point running old transmission in the vvti.
How much do the 1uz vvtis fetch? |
Ian Johnston
Goo Roo
South Australia
1995 UZZ31, BA XR6Turbo Ute. 2007 VE GTS.
Posts: 1606
Reg: 07-2005
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Can pick up a good Lexus VVTI half cut for around $2,000. Thats cheap including engine, gearbox, all wiring etc, and the bonus of 4 piston brakes as well.
Good deal I thought. And not much more for a 4.3 |
Ian Johnston
Goo Roo
South Australia
1995 UZZ31, BA XR6Turbo Ute. 2007 VE GTS.
Posts: 1607
Reg: 07-2005
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As Mike said, not chasing big power. Would be good to have a "late model" Soarer with VVTI, and 5 speed auto.
I like the Soarer to look at, and drive. If I want power, I go for a drive in my turbo Falcon |
Boris Siljanoski
Goo Roo
Western Australia
LS400 + Soarer.
Posts: 1823
Reg: 11-2007
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This would be cool to do, Easy performance upgrade for V8 Soarers.
Why not a 4.7 Engine?
I always wondered which is better, 4.7 or 4.3.... 4.3 has more power on Paper. |
Peter Williams
TryHard
Victoria
V8
Posts: 173
Reg: 01-2009
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Isn't the 4.7 engine a cast iron block? |
Ian Johnston
Goo Roo
South Australia
1995 UZZ31, BA XR6Turbo Ute. 2007 VE GTS.
Posts: 1608
Reg: 07-2005
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Found somewhere that 4.7 is steel block. Only 4x4 option??? LS430 halfcut on Ebay ATM for $2,500 start. Bargain.
Ha ha, I am a slow typist.
The wiring would be more complicated in the UZZ31 than say a UZZ30 because of the EMV etc I would think.
I look at it this way, I paid $5,500 for my 1995 UZZ31 with everything, add around $5-6,000 for halfcut and some labour( I can do most myself), and would then have a good car for the price of a Falcondore of early 2000s. No comparison in my books. |
Ian Johnston
Goo Roo
South Australia
1995 UZZ31, BA XR6Turbo Ute. 2007 VE GTS.
Posts: 1609
Reg: 07-2005
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Just found Toyota Century half cut on Ebay. V12, 5ltr, 48 valve VVTI. Just the ticket for a wild twin turbo conversion. Starting bid $3,500. |
Scott Vim
DieHard
Vic
Soarer (1uz) Chaser (1jz)
Posts: 516
Reg: 12-2010
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Yeah 4.7 2uz out of a landcruiser is all cast iron. The 4.3 is better unless you're 4wding. Put a v12 in it. I've heard it's an amazing engine. If you can do most of the work yourself go for it. Would be an amazingly unique car. |
Mike Beck
Goo Roo
New Zealand
BMW E36 Coupe 1UZFE V8 340i
Posts: 5682
Reg: 11-2005
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The V12s are certainly getting cheaper, good as a bolt in power upgrade but having seen one disassembled up close they are quite eco minded, running small ports, valves etc so don't think of them as a two 1jz-vvti engines next to each other. In saying that, 300hp+ and 450nm is plenty... would be a prick of a conversion though, but more than doable.
James Buchan wrote on Tuesday, January 29, 2013 - 12:55 pm:I'd not thought about the tailshaft though. Could you run the A340 on the later model vvti motors? Guessing the vvti 1U engine wouldn't/couldn't control the A340 gearbox.
Haha you wouldnt want that, the A340 is a bit of a dog compared the A650, they have 5 forward gears and electronic control of the line pressure, Its allowed me to program mine setup down to a tee finally!
I originally had the even worse A341e in my car, but now with the 650 and it's manual like gear ratios its changed the whole feel of the car.
The output shaft flange of the 650 is about 1/2 an inch larger than the 340/341. I had to get a new shaft made for this reason. |
Boris Siljanoski
Goo Roo
Western Australia
LS400 + Soarer.
Posts: 1824
Reg: 11-2007
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The V12 goes better than a 1JZ. |
Mark Donovan
DieHard
Auckland
V8 Limited
Posts: 824
Reg: 07-2005
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The 1UR-FE 4.6L from a GS460 will become affordable at some point - I don't know anything about the engine - I had to look up the model code - but I'm sure that would be a nice upgrade in the Soarer. |
Joshua Rao
Goo Roo
WA
TT (for sale $5.2k), 97 Blk UZZ31, 97 JZZ30 vvti turbo white manual, 96 vvti turbo manual, Legnum VR4, MR2 sw20, Alfa 156
Posts: 3095
Reg: 09-2006
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The 1j vvti is smooth if that's what your after |
Scott Vim
DieHard
Vic
Soarer (1uz) Chaser (1jz)
Posts: 520
Reg: 12-2010
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Well the more cylinders the more smoother it should be. I can balance a 50 cent coin on my 1uz and take it to redline without it falling. The v12 is in Toyota's top of the range car designed for smoothness and comfort. |
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