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Tim Stewart
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victoria
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Saturday, September 07, 2013 - 04:58 pm, by:  Tim Stewart (Timmeh) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

As the title says.

I just buaght a 94 sc400 v8.

I was having an issue with the car stalling when i come to a stop and found the alternator was stuffed so fitted a new one and rebuilt the steering pump at the same time. thinking that may be the stalling problem.

Still had the problem. found the maf sensor was stuffed so fitted a new one and all new leads coils plugs rotor caps and rotors.

Started getting major idle surging and run very rough.

I had a sealed IACV idle valve that was stiff so fitted a pre 94 one that i rebuilt. The idle is more stable now but still lumpy chugging and its running more rough and seems to keep getting worse.

I cant drive the car as its so chuggy and making the trans clunk around gears it runs rough like a mower i can smell fuel it blows black smoke and when i press the throttle it bogs out and almost stalls. if i unplug the maf it will not bog down but it still runs like a mower.

i have replaced the caps in my ecu and i am waiting on a new rebuilt ecu in the mail from a lexus specialist. also waiting on new o2 sensors.

Swapped igniters around reset ecu ect.

Can anyone suggest what the problem may be if it not the ecu or 02 sensors? I checked the pump ecu byepassing it and no luck.
Tom Richards
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Saturday, September 07, 2013 - 10:03 pm, by:  Tom Richards (Tomr) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

is it running on 4 cylinders? check the coils.
Peter Nitschke
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Sunday, September 08, 2013 - 02:03 am, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The deterioration suggests the ECU to me. Let us know how the rebuilt one goes.
Tim Stewart
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Sunday, September 08, 2013 - 02:25 pm, by:  Tim Stewart (Timmeh) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Checked both coils. replaced one for now. and swapped the other around with no luck. i hope its the ecu as i have run out of ideas. cars only done 152.000 really hate to think its a total loss.
John Stafford
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Monday, September 09, 2013 - 05:12 pm, by:  John Stafford (Johng12) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Where are the igniters on the 1UZ engine? Are they part of the distributor or are they built into the coil? Or separate?
Tim Stewart
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Monday, September 09, 2013 - 09:28 pm, by:  Tim Stewart (Timmeh) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

right hand side two silver boxes stacked on top of each other above the wheel arch.
John Stafford
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Monday, September 09, 2013 - 09:52 pm, by:  John Stafford (Johng12) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Do you mean under the wheel arch, as I can see nothing above, under the bonnet?
Maybe a picture if you could?
Thanks
Daniel Marshall
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Monday, September 09, 2013 - 10:35 pm, by:  Daniel Marshall (Ydass) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Its symtoms of the ecu. When you say you did the caps did you check the board over for continous tracks? And were any caps leaking? from your symptoms I could guess 2 were and they probly damaged the tracks.

Just out of interest who's the Lexus specialist and how much was the ecu.
I need some for My change over pile.

John on passenger side strut tower under a black plastic cover are the ignighters.
2 of the same plug but 1 has an extra wire for tacho.
Tim Stewart
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Tuesday, September 10, 2013 - 06:41 am, by:  Tim Stewart (Timmeh) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

mine had no cover over it. but yeah where dan said.

Two were leaking one had eaten into a track but it looked like it had only takn the vanish off and the track looked like it might still work but guess not.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/111146944689?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649

This guys in the us he fixes all problems with the ecu and gives lifetime warranty. i spent $300 odd without changeover. ill post my old one back when i get the new one and ill get $100 back.
Daniel Marshall
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Tuesday, September 10, 2013 - 07:12 am, by:  Daniel Marshall (Ydass) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

USA spec ecus are different due to the emissions laws. You will have more problems with that ecu.
Shift points are different and other things as well.

That dammaged track is probky your problem it is probky more damaged than you thought
John Stafford
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Tuesday, September 10, 2013 - 07:28 am, by:  John Stafford (Johng12) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks Dan, found them.
Tim Stewart
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Tuesday, September 10, 2013 - 06:49 pm, by:  Tim Stewart (Timmeh) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The guy asked me what model i had and what emmisions stickers and plates and is sending me one that will work. the add i showed was just a link to his ebay page.
Peter Nitschke
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Tuesday, September 10, 2013 - 10:51 pm, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Daniel Marshall wrote on Tuesday, September 10, 2013 - 07:12 am:

That dammaged track is probky your problem it is probky more damaged than you thought


"probky"?
Daniel Marshall
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Tuesday, September 10, 2013 - 10:58 pm, by:  Daniel Marshall (Ydass) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Probably auto correct on phones is so much fun :p
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Saturday, September 14, 2013 - 10:44 pm, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

So it corrected something to be a non-word? Chinese phone perhaps? :-)
Daniel Marshall
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Thursday, October 03, 2013 - 10:17 pm, by:  Daniel Marshall (Ydass) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Is this solved?
Tim Stewart
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Saturday, October 26, 2013 - 02:54 pm, by:  Tim Stewart (Timmeh) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well after allot of stuffing around i finally got my ecu back suposedly repaired. cant see anything really new done to it that i already didnt do other then one solder joint. still the same problems. im out of ideas.
Tim Stewart
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Tuesday, October 29, 2013 - 06:58 pm, by:  Tim Stewart (Timmeh) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sorted the rough idle. it turns out stupid me while trying to fix the idle hunting i put one lead on a bit loose. BUT the car is still idle hunting when the air flow sensor is plugged in but runs ok and rich when its un plugged. i have fitted a reco iacv had the computer reco and had an auto elec check eveything. he tells me the new air flow sensor i brought could be fualty or not built to the right specs as it is an aftermarket one. could this be the case. i cant find a spare oem air flow sensor to test.?
Tom Richards
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Wednesday, October 30, 2013 - 07:37 am, by:  Tom Richards (Tomr) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

was the timing belt changed just before you purchased the car? timing incorrect??
Daniel Marshall
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Wednesday, October 30, 2013 - 08:07 pm, by:  Daniel Marshall (Ydass) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

the ecu who refurbished it?
you said only 1 new solder mark if this is the case
probably your ecu still has problems due to them only doing 1. all the capacitors need doing.
i have fixed other peoples work because of this exact reason.

in regards to afm will run rich due to changing the tune in ecu.
if your having problems with afm pluged in either ecu or afm. no one around you has a afm you could borrow to check? if not i can send one of my spares down to test.
Tim Stewart
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Wednesday, October 30, 2013 - 09:47 pm, by:  Tim Stewart (Timmeh) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

So i contacted the place i got the new maf from and told them everything is pointing to the new maf sensor and guess what! THEY ADMITTED THEY HAVE HAD A FUALTY BATCH OF MAFS WITH THE PARAMITERS SET WRONG!!!! GRRRRRRRR!!!!! so looks like that is the problem. they are not gonna have the new batch for another 3 weeks so i have ordered a second hand one online that claims to be tested and working. see how it go.

Timing is all ok been checked bye a mechnic.
Tim Stewart
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Thursday, November 07, 2013 - 06:10 pm, by:  Tim Stewart (Timmeh) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Running like a champ after replacing maf sensor and replaced fuel pump as car kept stalling and would not start unless i had foot on the gas and kept it reving but the car still keeps randomly dying?
Tom Richards
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Thursday, November 07, 2013 - 07:33 pm, by:  Tom Richards (Tomr) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

in the diagnostics port, short B+ to FP and drive it for a while and see if it stops dying. If it is fixed fuel pump ECU is faulty
Tim Stewart
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Tuesday, December 10, 2013 - 08:40 pm, by:  Tim Stewart (Timmeh) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Still stalls randomly. always starts and runs again with foot on the gas tho but take foot off or slow down and it stalls. only once warmed up too.
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Tuesday, December 10, 2013 - 09:49 pm, by:  Tom Richards (Tomr) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i am with Daniel, i think ECU is still "suss"
Daniel Marshall
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Tuesday, December 10, 2013 - 09:51 pm, by:  Daniel Marshall (Ydass) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Bridge the fp+ and b+ terminals in the diagnostic port see if that helps.
If not it'll be the ecu still.

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