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Raoul Duke
Newbie
Victoria
Soarer UZZ31 V8
Posts: 1
Reg: 09-2016
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Hello I'm new, and I just bought a 91 v8 31 Soarer and it is giving me the sh!ts. It is the worst piece of sh!t I have ever owned and everything is falling to bits but I am committed to fixing it before giving it to my girlfriends mother who has a history of liking pieces of sh!t which all started with the LC Torana and a later Sunbird.
She literally traded a VJ charger for a bloody Sunbird. Amazing right?.
This piece of sh!t Soarer will one day be a glorious vehicle that any hoe would be proud to sit in the passenger seat of but not drive herself.
Like I was saying, I have the worlds worst piece sh!t and I was hoping for some tips.
Brand new battery, idle valve bits changed, new terminals, cables look fine. TPS probably not adjusted properly.
List of error codes: 63 84.
Solenoid 2 in gearbox is stuffed or shorted. Height sensor right front is stuffed or shorted.
I have the replacement parts, just no time.
The main problem is this: idle is too high at least once a week, warm or cold. It wants to rev about 1800rpm in Park and sits at 1100rpm in Drive.
Car has no power and bogs on take off in any gear when it happens.
Turning the car off for 10 minutes resets it and then it idles normally all week.
Car still feels low on power. Wondering if when the box is in safe mode it also retards timing? 1st gear feels weak if accelerating from first.
The other problem is the suspension height switch. The globe works when it wants on the console button thing there. It's giving me the sh!ts. It won't light up on normal mode, but SOMETIMES will light up when it's on high mode.
I was looking down at the gear knob the other night and the height switch was illuminated. Looked again and it wasn't. Nothing comes up on the dash either, unsure if somethings supposed to or not.
The compressor in front of right driver side wheel is noisy too.
I have the new sensor, just gotta put it on.
Wondering if the button is related somehow because it only lights up when it wants.
Did I just waste my hard earned dosh on a sensor?
Finally, I have this rubbing sound on the ass end which started after putting new (2nd hand) tyres on. Sounds like a tailshaft or bearing or something.
The guy who jacked the soarer up to change the tyres put the jack underneath the rear numberplate and about 1 meter towards back seat then jacked the car up pretty high.
Wondering if he could have bent something and now something's rubbing?
Been a bit too long to take it back now to get it looked at because i've been overseas.
That's about all. I heard there is only 1000 left? |
Raoul Duke
Newbie
Victoria
Soarer UZZ31 V8
Posts: 2
Reg: 09-2016
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Door handle is falling off too. |
Raoul Duke
Newbie
Victoria
Soarer UZZ31 V8
Posts: 3
Reg: 09-2016
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Passenger window regulator broke on top of that. |
Raoul Duke
Newbie
Victoria
Soarer UZZ31 V8
Posts: 4
Reg: 09-2016
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If the TPS is not aligned will it throw a transmission error code? I read the TPS controls shift points. I have a solenoid #2 error showing. |
Dave Rose
Goo Roo
wa
UZZ31 /Pajero sport
Posts: 2696
Reg: 03-2007
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ITS 25 YEARS OLD !! and by the sounds of it had a hard life , looked after they drive like new even after 25 years .
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Peter Nitschke
Junk Filterer
South Australia
UZZ30 UZZ31
Posts: 12887
Reg: 11-2004
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 Raoul.
Suggest go to Pedders and get their $28 suspension check. They have been quite thorough when I have used them and spotted issues quickly that experienced mechanics have missed after hours of looking.
They may be able to sort the noise and also report on whether any damage has been done. Mention your concerns when you book it in.
Might just be a loose bulb or connection on the height lamp.
I doubt the lamp would be related to the height issues that caused you to buy a new sensor. |
Blake Gloyn
Goo Roo
manawatu
soarer JZZ30 TT
Posts: 1331
Reg: 02-2006
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sounds like he put the jack under the diff. the cast diff casing is very strong, i doubt the weight of the back end of the car was able to bend anything to damage a bearing.
Because these cars cost over $100,000 new, they have lots of bits that can go wrong... buy a bad one, and it can cost you mega time and money to fix them. However, someone before you has had 25 years of relatively low cost ownership.
But as a general rule, they have great quality bits. My first soarer had done 237,000km before it had its first suspension part needing to be replaced. Legend! A well serviced Soarer will do probably 400000km on original motor, possibly a mild trans recon if driven hard. Hard to think of a better built car really.
think about a newish BMW, with all those gadgets. I bet they will be a real nightmare in 25 years time! |
Tom Richards
Goo Roo
nsw
V8
Posts: 2286
Reg: 08-2005
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Raoul, this forum is used by "lovers" of the Soarer. Bagging Soarers out will not help you to get assistance from others on the forum |
Raoul Duke
Tinkerer
Victoria
Soarer UZZ31 V8
Posts: 9
Reg: 09-2016
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Hello again, I need to give you guys clarification I think.
Great car when in top condition, but my particular soarer is a heap. Not knocking Soarer's, just the one I own.
There is nothing on the Soarer that can really break if jacked up and cause a rubbing or bearing problem, Blake said.
Can someone give me a brief list of what can sound like a helicopter or droning noise from the back end of the Soarer? I have had a quick look but can't see anything out of the ordinary.
Tyres are not balanced... Noise started same day tyres were put on... Noise does not seem to correspond with tyre speed.
Guess what happened today? I think both coils died.
Pulling out from supermarket, car won't rev properly, sounds like it's missing, dash display disappears when revs go over 1000rpm, car revs slowly and stinks like fuel.
Cat warning light, Alternator not charging error I think, but this error doesn't match the one in soarer forums, only the start does. The end klingon letters don't match.
Is there another error similar to the alternator error that the warning list is missing on the Soarer forums?
Hopefully it's a coil, or both, it feels like I'm running on two cylinders...
Like I said, this car is a heap, but it WILL be perfect in the end. I might keep it after all this trouble.
I'm after an inner drivers side door skin if anyone has one too. The lower half. Grey. |
Raoul Duke
Tinkerer
Victoria
Soarer UZZ31 V8
Posts: 10
Reg: 09-2016
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Peter, that makes sense and is good advice.
I guess the bulb wouldn't form the suspension height circuit and would be separate.
I'm going to put the height sensor in tomorrow, is there anything to look out for?
I plan to basically take the wheel off, take the inner liner off, Unplug the sensor, take the 2 bolts off the sensor (i think), replace it with the new one, and plug and bolt it back up. Is that all there is to it? No secret tricks... Right?
Then it's just a matter of twisting the rod til the car is level if I am not mistaken. |
Blake Gloyn
Goo Roo
manawatu
soarer JZZ30 TT
Posts: 1332
Reg: 02-2006
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put the car on the hoist, trans in neutral, and start spinning the drivetrain by hand to see where the helicopter noise is coming from. if there is no noise, start the car, put it in drive, and then listen underneath. if you cant replicate the noise while on hoist, then it must be a clearance issue that only happens when suspension is compressed to normal height. |
Raoul Duke
Tinkerer
Victoria
Soarer UZZ31 V8
Posts: 11
Reg: 09-2016
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Put the new coil in today, still have not got around to the suspension or rubbing noise.
Coil brought the dash back to life, car now firing on all 8. It was the passenger coil, which was a fiddly thing to do back up.
Broke coil HT lead boot. Was brittle. Wrapped electrical tape around it. Works good so far. |
Raoul Duke
Tinkerer
Victoria
Soarer UZZ31 V8
Posts: 12
Reg: 09-2016
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Went outside before and noticed the front of the car was low.
Both front wheels inside the arches.
Started her up and it pumped back to normal height in 10 seconds or so.
Scary.
Still up 8 hours later.
Any suggestions as to why this would happen?
I wonder if the height sensor can cause both sides to go low? I don't think there is a leak... |
Scott Vim
Goo Roo
Vic
Soarer (1uz) Chaser (1jz)
Posts: 1626
Reg: 12-2010
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Good set of coils will be the way to go. Don't expect to much from a 25 year old suspension. Good springs and she should clock another 300,000km. They definitely don't build them as strong as they used to. |
Raoul Duke
Tinkerer
Victoria
Soarer UZZ31 V8
Posts: 13
Reg: 09-2016
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I'm thinking of going coils one day. I'd like to keep the bags as long as possible.
A lot of places will install new pre owned bags for $300, including the bag and labor.
Not really hard to find bags apparently. That's a pretty decent price per corner I think.
I'm wondering why both fronts were inside the wheel arches? What can cause this? Surely one sensor can't cause both sides to go low, right?
Maybe time to replace bits inside the suspension ECU! |
Scott Vim
Goo Roo
Vic
Soarer (1uz) Chaser (1jz)
Posts: 1627
Reg: 12-2010
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I have airbags that I will sell. Pretty easy to put in. One of them was purchased new 4 or so years ago. The others are originals. If sink down they have leaks but you could push another few months out of them until the leak gets so big that they are always down. |
Raoul Duke
Tinkerer
Victoria
Soarer UZZ31 V8
Posts: 14
Reg: 09-2016
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How much are you after for bags?
I might rip my bags out and put coils in. Depends what the problem is. The bags might pay for new coils.
I noticed that the front right suspension seems to creek/pop once or twice now when hitting the height button since it was low the other day. The Soarer has stayed up since i found the front on its guts the other day. That's a good sign. |
Scott Vim
Goo Roo
Vic
Soarer (1uz) Chaser (1jz)
Posts: 1628
Reg: 12-2010
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$50 each for rears. Front left $70. Drivers right has a slow leak like the one you describe (if I don't drive for a week) so I binned it. |
Raoul Duke
Tinkerer
Victoria
Soarer UZZ31 V8
Posts: 19
Reg: 09-2016
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Hi Scott I might pick up your working airbags in the next two weeks if you still have them. Just wondering what suburb you are in? |
Scott Vim
Goo Roo
Vic
Soarer (1uz) Chaser (1jz)
Posts: 1629
Reg: 12-2010
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Message me when you are ready. |
Raoul Duke
Tinkerer
Victoria
Soarer UZZ31 V8
Posts: 20
Reg: 09-2016
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Thanks Scott. Are you west or east of the city?
I think i'll have a play lowering the current bags, and keep yours for emergency for in case when they pop. I've heard a lot of stories of bags popping if set too low, better to be safe than sorry.
Good news, put the height sensor in today and everythings working fine. Problem is the drivers side is now looking an inch too low so the rod must be played with. I gave up today, there was beer waiting. Back at it tomorrow.
Does anyone know how rear rods work?
I read that both rears rise and fall as one, even though there are two rear rods, one on each corner. What happens if I just adjust 1 rod for example?
Is the 91 UZZ31 supposed to have a lower front end than the rear, or is it supposed to be level?
Car is sitting level right now, aside from drivers side front which is a little too low. |
Dave Rose
Goo Roo
wa
UZZ31 /Pajero sport
Posts: 2704
Reg: 03-2007
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Backs work as one , adjust one rear rod and the back goes up or down as one , you should be able to adjust front L or R front with the controller . |
Scott Vim
Goo Roo
Vic
Soarer (1uz) Chaser (1jz)
Posts: 1631
Reg: 12-2010
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I'm in the east. |
Raoul Duke
Tinkerer
Victoria
Soarer UZZ31 V8
Posts: 24
Reg: 09-2016
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Jeez, got the suspension done today, what a pain in the ass! After every adjustment and drive around the block, the car was a different height.
I've settled on where it is now, I think it's pretty even by eye. I'll get an alignment done next week and get the fella to check heights.
Where do you measure the suspension height from the road? I had a quick look but can't find where.
I think my drivers side front bag has started to leak too, it was down last week, and was down again this morning a little. I'll have to keep an eye on it. |
Raoul Duke
Tinkerer
Victoria
Soarer UZZ31 V8
Posts: 25
Reg: 09-2016
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Hi Dave thanks for advice, but I don't have a controller. I'm doing it purely with rods.
I guess my question was, what happens if the rear rod on the left is all the way up and the right one is all the way down?
And then what happens if you reverse them?
There are 2 sensors for the rear but they work as one. You'd think there would be only 1 adjustable sensor in this case, but there are two. |
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