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Dave Hart
TryHard Waikato UZZ32
Posts: 392 Reg: 08-2005
| It's been said before that paying over the odds for Mobil 1 in older engines is a waste of money. I was wondering if anyone has used that Nulon fully synthetic (10w-30)and can comment. It's Aussie made but can now be got here in NZ and is a lot cheaper than Mobil 1. |
Tim Staier
Newbie Qld Lancer 1.8 CE
Posts: 1 Reg: 03-2006
| AMSOIL is a good thing, you will have a dealer for it in NZ |
Anish Varsani
TryHard QLD V8 UZZ30
Posts: 185 Reg: 07-2005
| On a non turbo, you may as well save your money and use a good quality mineral or semisynthetic. If you're that worried, just change it more often. If you look the the jap service sticker under your bonnet it says to change the oil every 15000km and that was back in the early 90's with older oil technology. Most owners change their oil every 5000km. Keep in mind that most "cheaper" synthetics are group III oils (ultra refined mineral oils with almost no impurities and volatile bits). |
Justin Staier
Tinkerer qld v8 limited
Posts: 6 Reg: 03-2006
| Just thought should add that Amsoil make an ATF that meets Toyota type ii & iv requiements. Running in my uzz31 now and is sweet We've used some these oils for 15 yrs on the farm in many pieces of equipment terrific results. |
Alfred Heng
TryHard WA V8 GT Limited
Posts: 130 Reg: 02-2006
| I have been away from the motoring scene for a while - Why is using Mobile 1 in older engines a waste of money? |
Anish Varsani
TryHard QLD V8 UZZ30
Posts: 187 Reg: 07-2005
| As for ATF, mobil make an ATF for the toyota too, ATF3309. Similar price to their Dex3. |
Don Bagnall
Moderator New Zealand I have LESS Soarers than Hayden :-(
Posts: 2959 Reg: 05-2005
| Over kill basicaly Alfred. I quite happily use Castrol Magnatec 10W-40 with absolutely no problems whatsoever, along with the GENUINE Toyota oil-filter. I should imagine that if you're running a worked TT, then something a little more special might be an advantage. |
Matthew Sharpe
DieHard North Island 3.0 GT
Posts: 561 Reg: 10-2005
| Indeed, and Magnatec only $30 for 4 litres. |
Anish Varsani
TryHard QLD V8 UZZ30
Posts: 188 Reg: 07-2005
| Have you guys had problems with magnatec leaving varnish inside the engine? I've moticed it on all types of magnatec, the off the shelf 10w40 and the synthetic (magnatec SP, 5w40). Thought it had something to do with the additives in it but not sure. |
Don Bagnall
Moderator New Zealand I have LESS Soarers than Hayden :-(
Posts: 2967 Reg: 05-2005
| Never looked Anish, or noticed. |
Matthew Sharpe
DieHard North Island 3.0 GT
Posts: 563 Reg: 10-2005
| Certainly left a varnish on the carpet in the boot when a (new, unopened) bottle toppled over on the way home and leaked all over the place. Castrol payed to get my boot valaid though, so it was all good... It is supposed to leave a film of oil on metal parts (thus the "Magna") but it shouldn't be a varnish (ie, should come off with a rag). I've been using it for years with no problems. |
Dave Hart
TryHard Waikato UZZ32
Posts: 394 Reg: 08-2005
| I've been using Magnatec with no problems. Never need to top-up between services. I was just interested in this Nulon oil from across the ditch which professes to be 36% lower in friction than other synthetics and a lot cheaper plus it comes in 6litre packs (I think that's what was said). |
Don Bagnall
Moderator New Zealand I have LESS Soarers than Hayden :-(
Posts: 2971 Reg: 05-2005
| I've seen the Nulon additives in the local speed shops and such, but have not tried the oil, as I, like you have no detectable oil consumption between changes |
Ian Johnston
DieHard South Australia UZZ30 GT 4.0
Posts: 520 Reg: 07-2005
| I use Mobil SemiSyn in my V8. No consumption between 5,000k services. I think the secret is to change more regular, like 5,000ks, and you wont have any problems. And do the filter at the same time. No real bad oil sold these days. |
Dave Hart
TryHard Waikato UZZ32
Posts: 395 Reg: 08-2005
| Just thinking, that apart from doing its main job of protecting the moving parts, its extra 'slickness' will mean less power loss and so extra k's between fills so saving money for other things. |
Anish Varsani
TryHard QLD V8 UZZ30
Posts: 190 Reg: 07-2005
| Found the same thing Ian. Only get oil consumption on straight mineral oil. Seems to start burning off (250ml/1000km) after 3000km. Semisynthetic moves about 2mm on the dipstick over 5000km of mainly highway driving. |
Tim Appleton
Tinkerer QLD GT-L V8
Posts: 65 Reg: 07-2005
| I remember one of the lab guys at uni saying that Castrol Magnatec was the worst oil he had seen run on their four-ball test rig. |
Clayton Webb
TryHard South Australia '31 V8
Posts: 218 Reg: 09-2005
| And it depends on how much of the engine has the ability to become magnetised. Some alloys used in engines have the same magnetical (?) properties as plastic. |
John Wan
Tinkerer NSW V8
Posts: 7 Reg: 09-2005
| Full synthetic $50-$60 oil is cheap, for the extra protection and piece of mind for the engine. Remember you are only changing the oil every 5000km or every 3months. You pay close to $100.00 per fill up and only travel 400-500km per tank of fuel. This equates to about $1000.00 worth of fuel for 5000km of travel and people are worried about paying $50.00-$60.00 for full synthetic oil? I can't figure it out??? |
Sam Ferguson
Tinkerer South Australia Celsior
Posts: 14 Reg: 02-2006
| using Castrol Magnatec in a all alloy V8?? isn't alloy a non-magnetic metal?? seams to me like your wasting your money but i guess the bearing's are magnetic, but i still don't see the point of spending the extra money on the "magnetic" properties of the oil. Just get a good quality oil to start with. |
Anish Varsani
TryHard QLD V8 UZZ30
Posts: 195 Reg: 07-2005
| The bore liners, crank shafts, cam shafts and a whole host of other bits are steel. The "all alloy" refers to the engine block casing. |
Sam Ferguson
Tinkerer South Australia Celsior
Posts: 15 Reg: 02-2006
| ok i have not seen what the internals of the V8's look like thanks for the correction |
Kris Blackler
Tinkerer WA V8 LTD
Posts: 56 Reg: 07-2005
| from what i have been told it has no magnetic properties what so ever. just sticks to the engine parts longer after being turned off than regular oils. i did see some other oil additive at super cheap the other day which looked convincing. cant remember what it was called. |
Matthew Sharpe
DieHard North Island 3.0 GT
Posts: 590 Reg: 10-2005
| My understanding is it has free ions in it and so does have some magnetic attraction to suitable metals. |
Dave Hart
TryHard Waikato UZZ32
Posts: 412 Reg: 08-2005
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Matthew Sharpe wrote on Tuesday, March 28, 2006 - 06:07 am:My understanding is it has free ions in it
The ions might be free but the rest isn't. |