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Andre Banna
Newbie
Vic
Soarer v8

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Reg: 09-2006

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Saturday, September 02, 2006 - 02:00 pm, by:  Andre Banna (Andre) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi everyone, im a new member and need some help!

My soarer (v8) is very slow to start up, it can take up to three times to finally get it started (worse on cold days and late nights). Although, a few times that i havent driven the soarer for 4 days or more, it starts almost instantly without an issue. it usually doesnt take long to start if iv just switched it off for a minute or so. Also, most times i start it, it usually gives out white smoke..

Anyone with some ideas/advice?? id really appreciate it!!

Thanks!
Andrew Ferres
TryHard
WA
Cressida V8

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Reg: 07-2005

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Saturday, September 02, 2006 - 05:09 pm, by:  Andrew Ferres (Peewee) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Open up the bonnet, and find the DIAGNOSTICS box on the top of the motor.

Put a little wire/paperclip in between FP and +B.

See if that makes it any easier to start.
Andre Banna
Newbie
Vic
Soarer v8

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Monday, September 04, 2006 - 04:09 pm, by:  Andre Banna (Andre) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Andrew, i used a paperclip and put one end in FP and the other in +B but no change at all the start up is still very slow. But when i opened the diagnostics box it was covered all over in some kind of white grease, is this normal???

Thanks,
Andrew Ferres
TryHard
WA
Cressida V8

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Monday, September 04, 2006 - 04:20 pm, by:  Andrew Ferres (Peewee) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

White grease is normal.

Sounds like the problem is not you Fuel Pump ECU, which is a good thing.

When was the last time the leads/plugs were checked/replaced?
Andre Banna
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Vic
Soarer v8

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Monday, September 04, 2006 - 04:39 pm, by:  Andre Banna (Andre) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The plugs were changed 3months ago, and i checked the leads too and they were all okay too.
Andre Banna
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Soarer v8

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Monday, September 04, 2006 - 04:44 pm, by:  Andre Banna (Andre) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I still have a feeling that its got something to do with the Fuel pump or ecu etc. if the car sits there for days it starts up much better?
Nathan Evans
TryHard
Queensland
1JZZ30 TT

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Monday, September 04, 2006 - 07:02 pm, by:  Nathan Evans (Soarer7) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

could possibly be the starter motor playing up.
Neil Griffiths
Trader
NSW
MANUAL Super Charged UZZ31 :-)

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Monday, September 04, 2006 - 08:03 pm, by:  Neil Griffiths (Aussiesc) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Possably weak relief valve in the pump itself.
Try turning key to ON for 30 seconds, THEN turn to start.Mainly after it has been sitting.If this makes it start easy, replace pump.
Clinton Trueman
Newbie
South Australia
4Ltr V8

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Reg: 08-2006

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Monday, September 04, 2006 - 10:30 pm, by:  Clinton Trueman (Clinton8002) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I had same problem with mine a little while ago. Don't know about yours but mine was the last owners put the wrong style of battery in it. The battery they were advised to use (by a store) was act completely the wrong type.
Andre Banna
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Vic
Soarer v8

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Tuesday, September 05, 2006 - 06:49 pm, by:  Andre Banna (Andre) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Clinton, what is the battery specs for 91 v8 soarers?
Andre Banna
Tinkerer
Vic
Soarer v8

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Tuesday, September 05, 2006 - 06:54 pm, by:  Andre Banna (Andre) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I kept the key to on for 30 seconds although this didnt work. Any other advice???
Clinton Trueman
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South Australia
4Ltr V8

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Wednesday, September 06, 2006 - 12:37 pm, by:  Clinton Trueman (Clinton8002) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm not sure what the battery specs are for the soarer accept you need 580 cold crank amps. The batter I have now got in my car is a ACDelco S70D23L. It has 580 cold crank amps. Its the battery the RAA recommended to me and I havn't had any problems since. This link is to the AcDelco catalogue. It might be some help.

www.acdelco.com.au/Assets/ACDelco%20Batteries%20Catalogue.pdf

If your with the RACV. they have all the info you need. the battery cost round $158.
Andre Banna
Tinkerer
Vic
Soarer v8

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Wednesday, September 06, 2006 - 01:58 pm, by:  Andre Banna (Andre) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Clinton, my batt is fine, it is the ACDelco S80d26L with 600 CCA's. thanks anyway!!

Does anyone know a v.good soarer mechanic in melbourne-east???
Andre Banna
Tinkerer
Vic
Soarer v8

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Thursday, September 07, 2006 - 04:21 pm, by:  Andre Banna (Andre) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Anyone know a good cheap soarer mechanic in melbourne, preferably east????
Maurice Diggler
TryHard
Victoria
Twin Turbo

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Reg: 06-2006

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Thursday, September 07, 2006 - 10:11 pm, by:  Maurice Diggler (Mau_rice) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sports & Luxury

They are in Ferntree Gully.

www.sportsluxurycars.com.au
Andre Banna
Tinkerer
Vic
Soarer v8

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Friday, September 08, 2006 - 04:43 pm, by:  Andre Banna (Andre) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ferntree gully's a bit outa the way, eastern region - somewhere close to blackburn or doncaster preferably...thanks!!
Peter Nitschke
JunkFilterer
South Australia
GT4.0 V8

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Friday, September 08, 2006 - 09:27 pm, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Andre, it's probably worth the drive. Finding someone that is experienced and has a good track record with working on Soarers means that they will most likely be able to diagnose problems faster, and know of the fix already, which can often mean saving hundreds of dollars.
Andre Banna
Tinkerer
Vic
Soarer v8

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Reg: 09-2006

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Saturday, September 09, 2006 - 12:04 pm, by:  Andre Banna (Andre) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

yeah ill give them a call this week. thanks guys

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