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Terry Glenn
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NSW
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Tuesday, November 14, 2006 - 09:58 am, by:  Terry Glenn (The_bear) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Peter,
You might be fighting a losing battle. I see that in NZ they are going to allow SMS speak in their final year exams
Leon Wright
TryHard
WA
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Tuesday, November 14, 2006 - 10:56 am, by:  Leon Wright (Techman) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

That's ridiculous! There will be something lost if our written language degrades that far!
Simon Triantafillou
DieHard
NSW
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Tuesday, November 14, 2006 - 12:20 pm, by:  Simon Triantafillou (Soarer) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Link for those who haven't already read about it:

http://www.tech2.com/india/news/mobile-phones/nz-schools-to-allow-sms-lingo-in-exams/2764/0
Nichola Castagna
TryHard
NSW
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Tuesday, November 14, 2006 - 12:24 pm, by:  Nichola Castagna (Nawtee) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

That's crazy........Some people have enough trouble understanding the written language let alone abbreviated SMS speak...
Daniel Czechowski
Goo Roo
Western Australia
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Tuesday, November 14, 2006 - 12:32 pm, by:  Daniel Czechowski (Dan) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yep, welcome to a new generation of retards...
Matthew Sharpe
Goo Roo
North Island
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Tuesday, November 14, 2006 - 01:16 pm, by:  Matthew Sharpe (Madmatt) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Daniel Czechowski wrote on Tuesday, November 14, 2006 - 12:32 pm:

Yep, welcome to a new generation of retards...




It's already here unfortunately.
Perry Morgan
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Qld
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Tuesday, November 14, 2006 - 02:48 pm, by:  Perry Morgan (Uzz32) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

They may as well change the exam name from English to nokyish.
Paul Christian
Tinkerer
WA
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Tuesday, November 14, 2006 - 03:12 pm, by:  Paul Christian (Paul_christian) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Don u thk SMS cn xlr8 lrning?
Aaron Klaver
Trader
Victoria
TT and T

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Tuesday, November 14, 2006 - 03:13 pm, by:  Aaron Klaver (Nakedterror) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

omgwtfbbqftwlol!!!!!11one!
Peter Nitschke
JunkFilterer
South Australia
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Tuesday, November 14, 2006 - 03:38 pm, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

A couple of points.

As I understand it, you will still lose some points, but not lose the entire question as long as it's still readable and the actual question is answered.

Some abbreviations have become part of the language, mainly due to the Internet eg lol, wtf, ftw and so on.

We accept a lot of that here too.

However, regardless of how much the NZ government has to compromise in the hope that someone will actually pass an exam, I will still be taking a tough stance against SMS-speak on Soarer Central.

It may well be that SC will end up being the only forum that actively discourages SMS-speak, but I am sure there will still be enough people that take pride in their presentation to keep the forum alive.

Soarer Central, an island of sanity in a degrading world of gibberish.
David Vaughan
Goo Roo
ACT
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Tuesday, November 14, 2006 - 03:42 pm, by:  David Vaughan (Davidv) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hell that was slow to read Paul. I think my answer would be, no.

I am not sure how it will help in exams. I thought they wrote with their thumbs only for their signature.
Aaron Klaver
Trader
Victoria
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Tuesday, November 14, 2006 - 03:42 pm, by:  Aaron Klaver (Nakedterror) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

th... this is an island of sanity?

gawd help us aaaaaall!
Adam Barry
DieHard
WA
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Tuesday, November 14, 2006 - 03:46 pm, by:  Adam Barry (Acdchook) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well, I say step it up a notch, Peter. I'm so sick of seeing stupid spelling and grammatical errors in posts. People, it's about time to learn the difference between BRAKES and BREAKS. This is a car forum, for christ's sake (And I omit the capital for 'Christ' deliberately)! The other main ones that piss me off are THERE, THEIR and THEY'RE, as well as ITS and IT'S. This is year 3 English, it's not difficult. As far as I'm concerned, if you can't read and write the English language, DO NOT participate in an English-language forum.

EDIT: I forgot the other main offender - YOUR and YOU'RE (and occasionally YAW).
2nd EDIT: And another one - MUST HAVE, not MUST OF. It really gets on my nerves when people say MUST OF. The correct expression is MUST HAVE, which is why the contracted form is MUST'VE. Whether or not that is a valid and correct contraction is another debate.
Daniel Czechowski
Goo Roo
Western Australia
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Tuesday, November 14, 2006 - 03:51 pm, by:  Daniel Czechowski (Dan) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

SMS speak so does not speed up anything, it takes longer to type it (coz u gotta figure it out how to abbreviate it) and takes longer to read it too... at least for me. Besides, I bet I can kick any teen's ass in typing an SMS, they can do it their old fashioned way, I just turn on predictive text input on mine and I'm done! So much quicker that way anyway...
Jeff Wilkins
TryHard
South Australia
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Tuesday, November 14, 2006 - 04:18 pm, by:  Jeff Wilkins (Calin) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Daniel, I feel the same way, old fashioned I guess. I very rarely use any SMS abbreviations in SMS'; it really just doesn't appeal to me.

However my girlfriends best friend can type SMS speak faster than I would have thought possible. Its like she has developed extra joints in her thumbs!! You have a multi-line response from here before you've finished clearing your last message. Freaky stuff.

As for SMS speak being allowed in an exam, what an absolute abhorrence. The English language needs a greater focus in schools, not lesser, for gods sake!

One of my greatest pet peeves is the "well, you knew what I meant" response you get from people either spelling words completely wrong (it happens to all people sometimes) or using a word completely out of context. grrrr.

Pedantry has a place in society I say.
Adam Barry
DieHard
WA
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Tuesday, November 14, 2006 - 04:23 pm, by:  Adam Barry (Acdchook) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Jeff, not good enough buddy - I counted THREE missing apostrophes!


Jeff Wilkins wrote on Tuesday, November 14, 2006 - 04:18 pm:

However my girlfriends best friend


GIRLFRIEND'S

Jeff Wilkins wrote on Tuesday, November 14, 2006 - 04:18 pm:

Its like she has developed


IT'S

Jeff Wilkins wrote on Tuesday, November 14, 2006 - 04:18 pm:

for gods sake!


GOD'S

You also had a spelling error, with 'here' instead of 'her', but I assume that is just a genuine typo, so I can let it slide.
Vinh Bui
Goo Roo
NSW
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Tuesday, November 14, 2006 - 04:27 pm, by:  Vinh Bui (Hyudsjk) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hahaha Adam. Spelling Nazi!
Adam Barry
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Tuesday, November 14, 2006 - 04:30 pm, by:  Adam Barry (Acdchook) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If that's what it takes to get people to start paying a bit more attention to their spelling and grammar, then so be it.
Tim Appleton
TryHard
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Tuesday, November 14, 2006 - 04:44 pm, by:  Tim Appleton (Timbo) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Adam, you're forgetting BOUGHT and BROUGHT. I must have seen five instances today of people bringing something from a shop, not buying it.

lol sms spk ftw w00t
Adam Barry
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Tuesday, November 14, 2006 - 04:46 pm, by:  Adam Barry (Acdchook) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Tim Appleton wrote on Tuesday, November 14, 2006 - 04:44 pm:

Adam, you're forgetting BOUGHT and BROUGHT.


You're completely right, an unfortunate oversight. But I'll be sure to add them to my Grammar Nazi SS watch list.
Jeff Wilkins
TryHard
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Tuesday, November 14, 2006 - 04:51 pm, by:  Jeff Wilkins (Calin) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

haha! Love your work Adam
Adam Barry
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Tuesday, November 14, 2006 - 04:52 pm, by:  Adam Barry (Acdchook) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Jeff Wilkins wrote on Tuesday, November 14, 2006 - 04:51 pm:

Love your work Adam


No problem. Tell me, does your apostrophe key just not work???
Jeff Wilkins
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Tuesday, November 14, 2006 - 05:26 pm, by:  Jeff Wilkins (Calin) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have an apostrophe key??!

who'd of thought?
Simon Triantafillou
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Tuesday, November 14, 2006 - 05:42 pm, by:  Simon Triantafillou (Soarer) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Who'd *have* thought...

Oh dear :-(
David Vaughan
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ACT
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Tuesday, November 14, 2006 - 06:05 pm, by:  David Vaughan (Davidv) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I am rolling in the aisles here;


supportively, though.

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