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Neil Griffiths
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Reg: 07-2005

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Thursday, August 18, 2005 - 06:57 pm, by:  Neil Griffiths Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I just thought I would bring this light.
MAY be handy when you next have a Traffic Offence.:-)

What I am about to say,HAS,been passed in Court.So this sets a Precedance :-)

If you are asleep while driving a car,you cant be held responsable for any actions that happen whilst so..heheheh
Its called a *Microsleep* and some other fancy word.

How it was set is like this.
A bloke was driving his car whilst drunk,he ran over someone and killed them.His Lawyer pleaded not guilty to the charge of *Unlawfull Manslaughter* on the grounds he was in a *Microsleep*,so the Judge looked into it and told the Jury he can not be held accountable because he was *Asleep*.
He did get done for drink driving..But was let of on the more serious charge.

Now if this is the case..I feel that if you get done for any driving offence..Claim you were *Asleep* !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Eg,
Why were you speeding ?
I was asleep Officer !

Why did you go through that red light ?
I was asleep Officer !

All appears this can be the case..

What ya's reckon...:-)
Simon Triantafillou
TryHard
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Thursday, August 18, 2005 - 07:01 pm, by:  Simon Triantafillou Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hehe, I'll wait til someone else tries it first.
Gareth Richards
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GTT-L twin turbo auto

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Thursday, August 18, 2005 - 07:20 pm, by:  Gareth Richards Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Wouldn't work in the UK!!

http://www.portal.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=%2Fnews%2F2002%2F01%2F12%2Fnselb12.xml&sSheet= %2Fnews%2F2002%2F01%2F12%2Fixnewstop.html
Perry Morgan
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Thursday, August 18, 2005 - 07:26 pm, by:  Perry Morgan Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sorry, what did you say? I was asleep. Can you repeat that Neil?
Jeff Harper
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Thursday, August 18, 2005 - 08:29 pm, by:  Jeff Harper Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I reckon a sneezing fit would work in an accident. Not for speeding.

"You were asleep, doing 185kph through hairpin turns and a creek crossing, dodged 2 mobs of kangaroos and YOU WERE ASLEEP!!"
Jason Kingsmill
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Thursday, August 18, 2005 - 08:33 pm, by:  Jason Kingsmill Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeah Jeff - I have heard of somebody getting off a charge by claiming they were sneezing at the time, because it is an involuntary bodily reaction???
Don Bagnall
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Thursday, August 18, 2005 - 08:40 pm, by:  Don Bagnall Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Previously undiagnosed Narcolepsy?
Steve Nolan
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SC400 Ltd (31)

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Thursday, August 18, 2005 - 09:04 pm, by:  Steve Nolan Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Shocked.....

The Bloke should have got life.
Whats with the praise of getting off when someone gets killed?

fark me.. has nobody got any comman sence.?
Just think if it was your Mum Dad Son or Daughter that suffered.

Please don't tell me that this is the true attitude of the general public..

Drink driving is stupid enough when nothing goes wrong.


Steve Nolan
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Thursday, August 18, 2005 - 09:07 pm, by:  Steve Nolan Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Lawyer Should have been put against the wall too..
Neil Griffiths
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Thursday, August 18, 2005 - 09:08 pm, by:  Neil Griffiths Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Narcolepsy? I think this WAS the word ?? Has similarities to Microsleep ?? Yeah.

Steve..Yes this is a true story..Is bad..But this is how things get set..PRECEDANCE..Thats the ONLY book a Lawyer will look into, to establish getting you OFF the hook.

Once a Precedance HAS been set in a Court of Law,all relavant cases WILL be treated in the same way.
Graham Dollisson
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Thursday, August 18, 2005 - 10:18 pm, by:  Graham Dollisson Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Don't ever claim you have Narcolepsy. You will have your licence taken off you for good. And in my case, I would lose my job as well!!
Ollie Ernst
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Soarer V8 Limited

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Friday, August 19, 2005 - 06:29 am, by:  Ollie Ernst Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yep, that's right Graham. Recently a NSW judge who regularly fell asleep during court cases, at times while witnesses gave testimony, had his license revoked as he claimed he had the same or similar condition (sleep apnoea).

Hardly surprising given the condition can cause you to fall asleep without warning.
Ollie Ernst
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Friday, August 19, 2005 - 06:35 am, by:  Ollie Ernst Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Full story for anyone who missed it at the time:

http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/7242_1452937,00180008.htm
Denise Ernst
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Friday, August 19, 2005 - 08:39 am, by:  Denise Ernst Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

There was a case in Canberra a couple of years back where someone had an accident during/after a major sneezing fit (I think they were on the Tuggeranong Parkway at the time) - from memory they didn't get off. I think the judge took the attitude that they should have pulled over.
Andrew Ferres
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Friday, August 19, 2005 - 10:51 am, by:  Andrew Ferres Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Steve Nolan wrote on Thursday, August 18, 2005 - 09:07 pm:

Lawyer Should have been put against the wall too..



I'm starting to think that lawyers are not the problem.

Its the judge and/or jury that seem to have no balls these days.

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