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Peter Nitschke
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GT4.0 V8

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Tuesday, August 23, 2005 - 08:42 pm, by:  Peter Nitschke Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Part number 669 - also fits a 1992 Lexus LS400, fronts only available, no rears.

You can check it on their web site.

http://www.hawkperformance.com/parts/search.php
Emanuel Spinola
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JZZ30

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Tuesday, August 23, 2005 - 08:44 pm, by:  Emanuel Spinola Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Peter
I use Hawk HPS+ pads which are more suited for track days than HPS which are a high performance street pad.
Dominic Kelly
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JZZ30 Soarer GT-TL

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Tuesday, August 23, 2005 - 08:44 pm, by:  Dominic Kelly Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

They might have been HPS+ Peter (don't have the box anymore) but I definitely couldn't get them for the single piston rears to match the pads in my 4 piston Supra fronts. They had no listing for the Supra NA 2 piston fronts either.

I ended up getting OEM pads for the rear which were very disappointing compared to the Project Mu pads that were on there.

Has anyone tried Project Mu or the latest Endless compounds on the track? I'd be interested to know how they coped. I suppose when it comes to value for money it's hard for Endless to compete against the likes of Ferodo (in Australia at least).
Peter Nitschke
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Tuesday, August 23, 2005 - 08:51 pm, by:  Peter Nitschke Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Manny, do you have a model number?

Either way, it looks like Ferodo pads for me from now on :-)
Emanuel Spinola
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JZZ30

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Tuesday, August 23, 2005 - 08:56 pm, by:  Emanuel Spinola Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Mine are HB215N.630 & HB216N.590 - the N's designate the HPS+ compound according to the website.
I'm pretty sure we went through this before - HPS+ weren't available for the NA Supra (TT Soarer) at the time.
I'm planning on using DS3000 Ferodos in my project car as well as they're decent value and are highly regarded by many.
Peter Nitschke
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Tuesday, August 23, 2005 - 09:02 pm, by:  Peter Nitschke Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yep, yep, yep. In agreement Manny :-)
Shane Standley
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IS200 TT

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Tuesday, August 23, 2005 - 09:03 pm, by:  Shane Standley Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hey, I used Greenstuff pads in my IS200 yesterday, and they held up well. I think i need to upgrade fluid, stock fluid couldnt handle the heat, calipers ar all brown and smelly now.
Peter Nitschke
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Tuesday, August 23, 2005 - 09:07 pm, by:  Peter Nitschke Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Shane, the brown and smelly is from the pads, not the fluid. If it's just on the callipers, then it's dust, different pads give off different amount of dust.

If your pedal went all spongy, that is the fluid.
Dominic Kelly
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JZZ30 Soarer GT-TL

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Tuesday, August 23, 2005 - 09:19 pm, by:  Dominic Kelly Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Slightly off topic but I suffered a bad case of brake envy today. Went with a friend of mine to test drive an Audi RS6. Talk about fabulous brakes: 365mm rotors clamped by 8 piston Brembos on the front. They filled the 19in wheels too whereas the Supra TT rotors would look like tins of shoe polish in there.

Same brakes as fitted to the Lambo Gallardo I'm told.
Emanuel Spinola
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JZZ30

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Tuesday, August 23, 2005 - 09:19 pm, by:  Emanuel Spinola Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Shane
Your car is a little lighter than ours mate :-)
Karl Hardy
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Wednesday, August 24, 2005 - 12:23 am, by:  Karl Hardy Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

MMMMMMM Green Stuff is GOOD Stuff...The Beast even Stopped With Green Stuff..
Emanuel Spinola
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Wednesday, August 24, 2005 - 08:48 am, by:  Emanuel Spinola Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Not according to David Ross!!!!

And how would you know - you never pushed it, you were slower than Juzza and most of the other guys :-)
Peter Scott
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Active V8

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Wednesday, August 24, 2005 - 10:22 am, by:  Peter Scott Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I thought the Greenstuff pads did a good job on my Soarer. Most of the Phillip Island guys had a good run with the Greenstuff from memory, Juzza, Rob, Karl etc. Karls car had the fastest terminal speed and stopped great.
At Mallala the Greenstuff were far superior to TRD and stock pads. Not as good as Feredos but much cheaper and readliy available. My slotted rotors soon filled up with brake pad material on the track. The slots didn't fill as much with the TRD pads - but they went from new down to the metal in around 18 minutes - weren't on for long.
I'd use them again no worries. And I love the way they bit on the street.
Not nearly as much dust as the Feredos too.
Nice clean cheap pad with heaps of bite.
Emanuel Spinola
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Wednesday, August 24, 2005 - 10:49 am, by:  Emanuel Spinola Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Just like TRD retail pads, EBC Green stuff pads are a performance street pad, not a track orientated pad - so comparing them to track orientated pads isn't really fair to them.

I had a bad experience with EBC Green stuff breaking down on me on the street to the point
where I almost had no brakes at all - I haven't forgotten that experience and will continue to slag off EBC Green stuff at every opportunity for putting my life in danger.

I have since read countless bad reports from numerous and varied car forums around the world concerning the breakdown of EBC Green stuff.

Even EBC don't recommend Green stuff for track use on heavy cars!
David Vaughan
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Wednesday, August 24, 2005 - 11:17 am, by:  David Vaughan Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


quote:

Even EBC don't recommend Green stuff for track use on heavy cars!


As can be seen here:
http://www.ebcbrakes.com/Automotive.html
Perry Morgan
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Wednesday, August 24, 2005 - 01:51 pm, by:  Perry Morgan Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have green stuff pads on my car too and a lot of people comment on how good my brakes feel underfoot.

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