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James Harris
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QLD
TT

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Wednesday, October 12, 2005 - 06:41 pm, by:  James Harris (Haro) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Guys,

I finally got around to getting a new pair of rear discs and rear pads for my Soarer TT as they have been making some funny noises of late and my discs have no meat on them anymore.

I have changed over discs before *on my 76 mini* so i kinda know whats goin on. BUT i would like to know if anybody has any tips (i.e "don't bother, pay someone else to do it")

1)Is the rear disc just a "floating disc?" as in can it simply be tapped off the hub?

2) Is there anything different / difficult about the Soarer rear discs that may catch me out?

Any tips or advice would be appreciated

This forum is such a time / money / effort saver!
Don Bagnall
Moderator
New Zealand
GT4.0 V8

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Wednesday, October 12, 2005 - 06:45 pm, by:  Don Bagnall (Baggs) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Make sure the hand brake is OFF, before attempting to remove rear discs .

It's amazing how many people forget that the handbrake on the Soarer WILL lock the disc in place, when on.
James Johnson
Tinkerer
Victoria
TT

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Wednesday, October 12, 2005 - 06:51 pm, by:  James Johnson (Jamesy) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Garry and I did this not long ago, to replace a stuffed stud

best way to get it off is to get some long "M8" sized bolts, and you should see two holes on the disc for the "M8" bolts to go in. then just do the "M8" bolts up and the disc should come off nice and strait!
James Harris
TryHard
QLD
TT

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Wednesday, October 12, 2005 - 07:05 pm, by:  James Harris (Haro) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

garry ?
its all good.

Cheers for the quick replies.
Don- good point
James- Sounds like a plan *just as long i have some of there "M8" sized bolts you speak of in my box-o-bolts...

Keep em coming people ! this is good !
Mike Triggs
TryHard
Norfolk Island
3.0GT G-Pack

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Wednesday, October 12, 2005 - 08:45 pm, by:  Mike Triggs (Mikeandimah) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Doesn't "M8" refer to the bolt rating? Does it matter that much? I mean "high tensile".
Dan McColl
TryHard
Victoria
UZZ32 V8 Soarer #183

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Wednesday, October 12, 2005 - 10:07 pm, by:  Dan McColl (Hoon) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

M8 is a metric 8mm diameter bolt.
Steve Nolan
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NSW
SC400 Ltd (31)

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Wednesday, October 12, 2005 - 11:16 pm, by:  Steve Nolan (Hiddenvision) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Oh I thought it was more of that SMS speak.!!!

Peter Ha
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NSW
Soarer TT

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Thursday, October 13, 2005 - 08:01 pm, by:  Peter Ha (Soaranova) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

hey sorry to hijack, but what is floating disc? i heard it mentioned before but not sure on what exactly it is.
Mike Triggs
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Norfolk Island
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Thursday, October 13, 2005 - 08:43 pm, by:  Mike Triggs (Mikeandimah) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Self-Adjusting Brakes
The single-piston floating-caliper disc brake is self-centering and self-adjusting. The caliper is able to slide from side to side so it will move to the center each time the brakes are applied. Also, since there is no spring to pull the pads away from the disc, the pads always stay in light contact with the rotor (the rubber piston seal and any wobble in the rotor may actually pull the pads a small distance away from the rotor). This is important because the pistons in the brakes are much larger in diameter than the ones in the master cylinder. If the brake pistons retracted into their cylinders, it might take several applications of the brake pedal to pump enough fluid into the brake cylinder to engage
http://auto.howstuffworks.com/disc-brake2.htm

It's the calliper that's floating,Peter, not the disc (rotor).
Peter Ha
TryHard
NSW
Soarer TT

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Friday, October 14, 2005 - 06:08 am, by:  Peter Ha (Soaranova) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

oh thanks Mike. i was like.. what the? floating disc? hehehe.. now its all clear. :-)
James Harris
TryHard
QLD
TT

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Friday, October 14, 2005 - 09:30 am, by:  James Harris (Haro) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

MR Triggs, all over it !

So - any more tips before i set out on this mission (i just dont wanna get half way and realise i can't do it)

that would be very uncool.
Peter Nitschke
JunkFilterer
South Australia
GT4.0 V8

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Friday, October 14, 2005 - 09:46 am, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

http://soarer.ace.net.au/brakes.html
Damien Smith
TryHard
NSW
Manual UZZ31

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Tuesday, October 18, 2005 - 12:48 pm, by:  Damien Smith (Damien) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Floating disks are connected to the central hat in a way that they can expand without warping. All modern motorcycles use floating disks - have a look next time you walk past 1 and you can see how it works.
Andrew Ferres
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WA
Cressida V8

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Tuesday, October 18, 2005 - 02:34 pm, by:  Andrew Ferres (Peewee) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Floating disc is just a disc over the hub.
This is opposed to a fixed? disc which bolted to the back of the hub (hub needs to be removed to remove the disc).

I tend to call the calipers 'sliding' not floating, but I'm not sure which is technically correct.

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