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Michael Butas
Tinkerer
NSW
GT Limited V8

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Reg: 10-2007

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Wednesday, February 27, 2008 - 10:20 am, by:  Michael Butas (Mb07) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Recently the brake fluid warning came up so I checked the level and it was below the MAX indicator so I topped it up to be just over it. Then a couple days later I saw a leak on the ground under the car and popped the bonnet to see that it was overflowing and leaking from the brake fluid cap. Took some fluid out, it was still over the MAX indicator by a fair way and now today the warning came on again and the level was about half way between MAX and MIN. Any ideas to why this would be happening?
Dave Hart
Goo Roo
Waikato
UZZ32

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Wednesday, February 27, 2008 - 02:07 pm, by:  Dave Hart (Davyboy) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If you have the all in one TRC/ABS unit and you pump the brake pedal a lot then the fluid tends to rise in the reservoir.
Scott Ferguson
DieHard
Alberta
Soarer GTT-L

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Thursday, February 28, 2008 - 12:50 am, by:  Scott Ferguson (Scott_ferguson) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

There was also a small tutorial a while back about a problem like this. Basically the 'dipstick' that goes into the reservoir contains the sensor for the fluid level as well. The sensor itself was filling with brake fluid and causing a bad reading. Not sure exactly where about the tutorial is but the tutorial section would be a good place to start.
Michael Butas
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NSW
GT Limited V8

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Thursday, February 28, 2008 - 01:47 pm, by:  Michael Butas (Mb07) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'll have a look but its not the reading which was my concern but the fluctuating reservoir levels. The sensor seems to be working fine it only comes on when it goes below the MAX level.
Dave Rose
TryHard
wa
uzz31 v8

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Thursday, February 28, 2008 - 05:24 pm, by:  Dave Rose (Sand_groper) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Mick...after leaving your car all night, in the morning the level will be high in the master cyl , now just turn ign on ..you will hear pump buzzing and your level will fall this is ok..but as you can see if it was topped up at this point it would overflow by morning.so top up after its been standing for a few hours....do you hear the pump going a lot when brakeing?..DR
Michael Butas
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NSW
GT Limited V8

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Friday, February 29, 2008 - 01:30 pm, by:  Michael Butas (Mb07) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ok I topped it up after I had been driving and it was giving me the warning message. Yeah I hear the pump going when I start it but I will have to listen to it when I'm driving and braking.
Dave Rose
TryHard
wa
uzz31 v8

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Friday, February 29, 2008 - 08:59 pm, by:  Dave Rose (Sand_groper) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Michael.....top it up after it has stood over night...if you do it after a drive it will over flow.....gee
Jan Christiansson
TryHard
NSW
Soarer V8 SC Manual

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Friday, February 29, 2008 - 10:32 pm, by:  Jan Christiansson (Janoc) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Here you can read how to fix it. Read all postings.
http://soarercentral.com/sc-forum/messages/285/67781.html
Michael Butas
Tinkerer
NSW
'96 GT Limited V8

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Saturday, March 01, 2008 - 09:22 am, by:  Michael Butas (Mb07) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dave, I do hear the pump going on a lot when braking. Is this normal or is it a sign of problem.
Peter Nitschke
JunkFilterer
South Australia
GT4.0 V8

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Saturday, March 01, 2008 - 01:38 pm, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Pump going a lot means the accumulator is losing pressure, though it depends on your definition of "a lot". :-)
Dave Hart
Goo Roo
Waikato
UZZ32

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Saturday, March 01, 2008 - 05:18 pm, by:  Dave Hart (Davyboy) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It means you're up for a new accumulator or at the very least a recharge if you can get one.
Dave Rose
TryHard
wa
uzz31 v8

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Saturday, March 01, 2008 - 05:37 pm, by:  Dave Rose (Sand_groper) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Michael..as Pete says it depends on your definition..so turn on wait till the pump stops and time how long before it comes on again?
then do this
..wait till it stops again ..now how many pumps of the brake pedal before it cuts in again.
Steve Latimer
TryHard
VIC
UZZ32

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Sunday, March 02, 2008 - 08:04 am, by:  Steve Latimer (Latsus) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Michael, for your information, please refer
http://soarercentral.com/sc-forum/messages/83418/213747.html?1197161968
Michael Butas
Tinkerer
NSW
'96 GT Limited V8

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Monday, March 03, 2008 - 06:32 am, by:  Michael Butas (Mb07) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dave, I turned it on and wait for over five minutes and it didn't come on. Then I pumped the pedal and found that every 2nd time I pushed it the pump would come on.
Dave Rose
TryHard
wa
uzz31 v8

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Monday, March 03, 2008 - 05:10 pm, by:  Dave Rose (Sand_groper) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Michael..that looks fine , mines a 97 and checks out the same also tried another late v8 same..! so it looks like its the sensor ? try topping it up after 30 pumps of the pedal (IGN OFF) .good luck DR
Michael Butas
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NSW
'96 GT Limited V8

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Monday, March 03, 2008 - 07:39 pm, by:  Michael Butas (Mb07) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

That's good news, thanks Dave and everyone for their help.
Tai Johnsen
TryHard
QLD
UZZ31 - V8

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Thursday, March 06, 2008 - 07:53 pm, by:  Tai Johnsen (Privatejohnsen) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

A good flush/bleed might help things too..

My pump has been much more docile since I flushed my TRC unit. Braided lines may have done a bit also.

Never overflowed tho.

Can't hurt...

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