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Rodger Clarke
Newbie
windsor
v8
Posts: 5
Reg: 12-2006
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 I have the brake error light coming up on the dash.
after about 2 miles of driving,the pump that runs on start up runs after i apply the brakes then i get the warning light . does this need changing? if so can somebody tell me how to d.i.y or is it better to get the garage to do it ? thanks for your time all ... RODGER
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Don Bagnall
Moderator
New Zealand
I have WAY less Soarers than Hayden :-(
Posts: 5975
Reg: 05-2005
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Part number: 47950 - 24020 (5/1991 - 9/1997)
Fits: JZZ30, UZZ3#..ATM
Replacement Method No.1 (Neil)
1. Release PRESSURE from the pump body. (RED line and RED capped bleed valve down the side). ( easy to see )
2. Use Stilsens (or strap oil filter remover) to loosen accumulator.
3. Unscrew & remove.
4. Replace with the new seals ( Black O ring to bottom, White Teflon on top).
5. Screw it on and just *nudge* tighten it.
6. Start car, bleed air out of the fluid from RED capped nipple.
( BE CAREFUL, IT COMES OUT AT HIGH PRESSURE )
At this stage it should be all done
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Replacement Method No.2 (Smiffie)
1. Rather than undoing the nipple, with engine off just press the brake pedal about 20 times until you can feel there is no pressure, this saves on any problems with bloody knuckles and stripped nipples.
2. As in 1st method.
3. Unscrew and remove. This is so easy, be careful you don’t pull out the little pin and it falls down behind the ABS pump.
4. This sounds like all you have to do is change the seal, but it isn’t so,
The white plastic seal has been bad on EVERY one we have taken off, it looks like it gets pinched when it is fitted, I have removed the white plastic one and fitted a rubber one in its place and it has worked fine, but then I didn’t know if the seal was causing the fault or not.
5. As in 1st method.
6. (Different to 1st method). I have never had to do this as I have never released the pressure from the nipple.
(I am not saying this is wrong, just that I don’t do it that way, and you might want to leave the nipple until you have tried it first).
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Peter Nitschke
Junk Filterer
South Australia
GT4.0 V8
Posts: 7489
Reg: 11-2004
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Rodger, it's normal for the pump to run after or when you apply the brakes as it needs to restore the pressure lost by using the brakes.
The warning light may be for low brake fluid, fill it slightly above the full lever and see what happens. |
Rodger Clarke
Tinkerer
windsor
v8
Posts: 6
Reg: 12-2006
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thanks for all your help guys .... will give it a go .... first the brake fluid ( cheaper )
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Dave Hart
Goo Roo
Waikato
UZZ32
Posts: 1123
Reg: 08-2005
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I'm with Neil on this one Rodger.
Leave the accumulator alone, unclip the cable that goes to the brake fluid reservoir then go for your drive and see if you get the error message after 2 miles.
If no error message then it points to your level sensor. If the level is low then top up. If the level is ok then o/haul the sensor (there's a procedure if you use 'Search'.
The accumulator should be ok if the booster pump only runs now and then. If it runs every few seconds then it's probably out of nitrogen pressure and you'll need a new one. |
Shane McInnes
Goo Roo
NSW
JZZ30 GT-TL Manual
Posts: 1010
Reg: 07-2005
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It usually makes a loud squeky noise when breaking. Thats when you know it needs replacing, and ofcourse the error msgs on the dash.
(Well my one did, it was very annoying) |
Joshua Olm
Tinkerer
Queensland
V8 SC400 GT LTD UZZ31
Posts: 6
Reg: 05-2007
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So Rodger what did it end up being??? Have one with the same prob and its not the brake fuild level nor its sensor...was your's the accumulator?
Regards Josh |
Valerie Estabrook
Tinkerer
Norfolk
2.5TT (Sailor) and V8 32 Active (O'Leary)
Posts: 13
Reg: 07-2007
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Hi everyone,
Have just encountered the exact same problem here with my lights and bongs going crazy.
Smiffie changed the accumulator for me using his method as above and hey presto............no more problems!!
I had been having all kinds of nightmares prior to this with the car, now I can take it out without any fear.
Valerie |
John Wan
Tinkerer
NSW
V8
Posts: 18
Reg: 09-2005
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Just wondering if this unit can be regas easily?
What's the replacement cost of the unit? |
Dave Hart
Goo Roo
Waikato
UZZ32
Posts: 1162
Reg: 08-2005
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Try some motorbike shops as they re-gas the bike shocks. |
Peter Nitschke
Junk Filterer
South Australia
GT4.0 V8
Posts: 8227
Reg: 11-2004
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http://soarercentral.com/sc-forum/messages/9739/166885.html?1181647149 |
Jeff Harper
Trader
NSW
UZZ32 Active V8
Posts: 1339
Reg: 07-2005
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They have HUGE pressure in them, be very careful. They can be bought new for about $300 |
Joshua Olm
Tinkerer
Queensland
V8 SC400 GT LTD UZZ31
Posts: 21
Reg: 05-2007
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Ha! New for $300 gez you must have good mates who do you know??? Sorry Jeff but the going rate for a new one now is $685 from Toyota and a few nice guys around like Gary at Peter Kittle Toyota might do it slightly lower. Garry quoted me around the $550 dollar mark... |
Elizabeth Hogan
TryHard
western australia
V8 Limited edition
Posts: 169
Reg: 02-2006
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Hi Guys,
The brake system warning light keeps popping up especially on startup before it finishes the system check and then my car stalls and i have trouble starting it.
I rev the motor until the system check is finished and the car runs great.
Ive filled up the break fluid but noticed that the accumulator was turning off and on when the key was in the on position.
If it is the accumulator would it course my car to stall before doing the system check?
Liz |
Peter Nitschke
Junk Filterer
South Australia
GT4.0 V8
Posts: 8438
Reg: 11-2004
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Liz, the accumulator should just charge up and stay charged until you use the brake pedal. It's probably due to be replaced or recharged.
I can't see that this would have any bearing on the car stalling however. |
Elizabeth Hogan
TryHard
western australia
V8 Limited edition
Posts: 170
Reg: 02-2006
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Thanks peter,
its booked in to get checked out on thursday.
Liz |
Kyle Wathen
TryHard
Vic
GTTL
Posts: 228
Reg: 02-2007
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I get the squeaky sound every now and again when applying the brakes (no error msg's) so i assume this means the brake accumulator needs to be recharged?
Has anyone in Melb had this done before, if so where? |
Peter Nitschke
Junk Filterer
South Australia
GT4.0 V8
Posts: 8443
Reg: 11-2004
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Have a listen under the bonnet first, just to be sure it is the accumulator. |
Andy Losurdo
Tinkerer
NSW
v8 quad cam
Posts: 12
Reg: 02-2007
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hi guys im not sure if this is the right section i own 2 soarers a uzz31 and i bought a uzz32 active 4 wheel steer model problem is i get the 4ws warning light coming up and brake warning light along with the park brake light drives well and i checked the brakes and fluid but still warning message comes up but 4ws message comes up every hour i drive it so any idea or feed back email me regards andrew |
Peter Nitschke
Junk Filterer
South Australia
UZZ30 UZZ31
Posts: 8972
Reg: 11-2004
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Andy, 2 things.
Please don't post the same thing multiple times.
Please try to remember what you were taught about writing in primary school. Not using any punctuation makes your post hard to read and understand. Probably the people that could help you, won't bother. |
Chris Lock
Tinkerer
sa
celica
Posts: 59
Reg: 03-2008
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Ok i just bought a V8 soarer, and i've got the brake warning message on the dash. The device shown in the first picture makes a pumping noise every 3 seconds or so, combined with a clicking noise from the other side of the engine bay, and a slight flicker of all lights. I gather this is the accumilator, and needs fixing? Peter, being from SA like yourself, which is the best way to go? regas, or replace?
The person i bought it from said they had the brake system checked out due to the warning message, and all was ok.? |
Don Bagnall
Moderator
New Zealand
Mercedes Benz SLK230 Kompressor
Posts: 6836
Reg: 05-2005
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Peter Nitschke wrote on Friday, March 14, 2008 - 06:38 pm:and all was ok.?
Obviously,..............they were WRONG!
Ha Ha! |
Peter Nitschke
Junk Filterer
South Australia
UZZ30 UZZ31
Posts: 9732
Reg: 11-2004
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Chris, I haven't heard of any problems with regassed units, or you can get a rebuilt unit from Peter Taplin. Or get a new one if it makes you feel better.  |
Scott Gates
DieHard
SA
TT
Posts: 869
Reg: 03-2007
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Guys, just changed over my accumulator with a recondition one from Steve Latimer/Peter Taplin and it works perfectly. It has never been so quiet. Well worth the money to get it done.
Also If you were wondering like i was about the white ring, it is meant to have the split. I thought mine was stuffed 
This has to be the most simple and easiest fix to do.
Cheers again Steve Latimer and Peter Taplin, great service. |
Elizabeth Hogan
TryHard
western australia
V8 Limited edition
Posts: 201
Reg: 02-2006
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How much is it for a recon one.
Liz |
Steve Latimer
TryHard
VIC
UZZ32
Posts: 243
Reg: 07-2005
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Liz,
PM sent
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Chris Lock
Tinkerer
sa
celica
Posts: 92
Reg: 03-2008
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lol.. i had a mouse complaining in my car yesterday.. squeek squeek..
Pm sent steve |
Steve Latimer
TryHard
VIC
UZZ32
Posts: 246
Reg: 07-2005
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Chris, PM replied.  } |
Chris Lock
Tinkerer
sa
celica
Posts: 100
Reg: 03-2008
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Bloody hell... I can't get the old one off....
Is it meant to be tight? |
Chris Lock
TryHard
sa
celica
Posts: 101
Reg: 03-2008
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Nevermind, got the prick off..
Bent the handle on the oil filter removal tool while i was at it though...
I hope i've tightened it enough
But the brake error has gone now |
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